Thread: Fight 129

except this isn't a battle shounen were the main character always wins in the end, also who says this will be the final battle of the manga? there's still the torunament to end...

and also, masataka will fight susanoo, while nagi is fighting souhaku....don't mix it up

Originally Posted by giorno-

except this isn't a battle shounen were the main character always wins in the end, also who says this will be the final battle of the manga? there's still the torunament to end...

and also, masataka will fight susanoo, while nagi is fighting souhaku....don't mix it up

I'm not twisting it up. Masataka likes Aya while Aya likes Nagi who only sees her as a sister(from what he said). Nagi likes Maya. It's been hinted a couple times that Masataka doesn't like the fact that Aya likes Nagi and was even happy when nagi was captured by his father.
I say it will be the final fight in the manga because that is how the manga started and there's nothing that has happened so far to make me think different.

The main goal of the manga is also to annihilate all the Red Feathers Powers.
Souhaku wants to store all of them in order to become Susano and the 12 Families wants it too in order to kill "the Host" off all those Powers and thus making them disapear.
That tends to Nagi losing/dieing at the end of the manga.

Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx

I'm not twisting it up. Masataka likes Aya while Aya likes Nagi who only sees her as a sister(from what he said). Nagi likes Maya. It's been hinted a couple times that Masataka doesn't like the fact that Aya likes Nagi and was even happy when nagi was captured by his father.
I say it will be the final fight in the manga because that is how the manga started and there's nothing that has happened so far to make me think different.

You're being stuck into the first volume and don't take into account anything that has happened afterward. Indeed the nagi - masataka rivality is something set in the beginning of the story, but not the one and only point. All this just add more sense to the fight that will happen now.

But man, in this manga, there is no such limitation as "the main character must own yea". O!G do his manga how he want, if he want nagi to die in the end, so be it. And if it's true that nagi is in the center of everything, he's not the main focus in the narration. Masataka and aya had enough screen time to be qualified as primary character in this story.

You really need to make a different beetwin what is logical in the manga and what YOU want.

But how will he die, that's the question? either way, it wouldn't change anything from what happened two years ago with Shin. Someone dieing in the end would just mean that the new guys couldn't do what the original Jyuken Club members did. IDK, it just seems like O!G retcons a lot of stuff in the first ten or so volumes and gives people what they want just so people will keep reading. That's just my opinion...

That's an easy statement right there...
I seriously don't think the 300 years in the past flashback was something people wanted to read..
On the contrary, I think O!G took some risks in his story telling and did the story the way he wanted, losing some people on the way..

I didn't affirm that nagi would inevitably die and even think it's unlikely, but storywise, that's still possible, but Iagree with you when you say that if nagi where to die it would not change from what happened with shin.

Like said before, nagi is fighting souhaku, and masataka is fighting susanoo. The'yre not against each over there.

Originally Posted by Jahnin

That's an easy statement right there...
I seriously don't think the 300 years in the past flashback was something people wanted to read..
On the contrary, I think O!G took some risks in his story telling and did the story the way he wanted, losing some people on the way..

I didn't affirm that nagi would inevitably die and even think it's unlikely, but storywise, that's still possible, but Iagree with you when you say that if nagi where to die it would not change from what happened with shin.

Like said before, nagi is fighting souhaku, and masataka is fighting susanoo. The'yre not against each over there.

I think u are getting a little carried away here. Masataka fighting susanoo is masataka fighting Nagi. Right now, Nagi is trying to stay in control of his body but I think he'll probably gain control before his fight against Masataka or Mitsuomi.

Again, can people stop acting like Shin got killed by Mitsuomi or something? In fact once Shin activated his dragon gate he nearly killed everybody that was there(including shin). and two, Shin took his own life.

^ yeah that always confused me in the manga why maya would go on about Matsuomi killing shin when he clearly didn't...or maybe she is blaming Matsuomi cause she thinks he drove shin to kill himself? idk, maybe Oh! great just wanted to show how people like to blame others lol or maybe i should stop being lazy and just go read it again lol

Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx

I think u are getting a little carried away here. Masataka fighting susanoo is masataka fighting Nagi. Right now, Nagi is trying to stay in control of his body but I think he'll probably gain control before his fight against Masataka or Mitsuomi.

Again, can people stop acting like Shin got killed by Mitsuomi or something? In fact once Shin activated his dragon gate he nearly killed everybody that was there(including shin). and two, Shin took his own life.

Err .. you reading what you want there..
Did I say something about mitsuomi and shin? I did not even think about him. The point is that the'yre all trying to end everything without having someone to die (like shin did in the past, how he died is not the point)), that was the point of bunishi coming to beat the face of mitsuomi to make him abort his original plan, That was the point of aya saying nothing about souhaku before. They where waiting for the right opportunity to kill souhaku without making a sacrifice.. So in a way if nagi were to die, they would have failed.

the fight against masataka (I think mitsuomi already played his part) is happening now, at the same time than the fight in souhaku's spirit. I don't think nagi have any time to wake up before the fight.

Originally Posted by Hadou-kou

it wouldn't change anything from what happened two years ago with Shin.

Originally Posted by Jahnin

I agree with you when you say that if nagi where to die it would not change from what happened with shin.

Shin's death was personal.
Nagi dieing at the end if he collects all the Red Feathers Powers will be a success cuz it will wipe those powers for good, except for Maya's.

Someone dieing in the end would just mean that the new guys couldn't do what the original Jyuken Club members did.

And what was that?

Originally Posted by xristopha

^ yeah that always confused me in the manga why maya would go on about Matsuomi killing shin when he clearly didn't...

She's crazy.
She's blaming Mitsuomi cuz she wanted to kill Shin herself but Mitsuomi prevented her from doing so.

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Originally Posted by Jahnin

The point is that the'yre all trying to end everything without having someone to die (like shin did in the past, how he died is not the point)), that was the point of bunishi coming to beat the face of mitsuomi to make him abort his original plan.

Bunchichi didn't care about their plan, he went there only to make Mitsuomi understand that he shouldn't be willing to die even if it's inevitable but should fight against it(death) even if it would mean being in a wheel chair or bed for the rest of his life.

That was the point of aya saying nothing about souhaku before. They where waiting for the right opportunity to kill souhaku without making a sacrifice.. So in a way if nagi were to die, they would have failed.

You got it all wrong.
Killing Souhaku would've been a piece of cake for them(Mitsuomi's gang).
When Mitsuomi cut Souhaku's head, he somehow knew that Souhaku wouldn't die.
The Blind Kid said that killing killing Souhaku would very easy since he then only was an Eye(meaning that Mitsuomi's gang already knew about Souhaku even if Aya wouldn't say anything about him) to Aya during their fight on the roof top.
The only reason they didn't kill him is that they wanted Souhaku to take control of Nagi and become Susanoo so that they would kill him.
He also explained it to Nagi when they fought.