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    @Hadou-Kou
    At the bowling alley Mitsuomi only wanted to stop Nagi not Aya because he don't care about her, Aya even think that Mitsuomi is a good person( and she's right). If Maya wasn't her sister I'm pretty sure she'd follow him. Mitsuomi didn't wanted Maya or Masataka out of the way because of their fighting skills, it was Emi's plan. Didn't you see what he did to Masataka when he came out of the elevator? And he not only wanted Bob to follow him but also Maya, he asked her but she refuse and I still think he still want her because at some point he trained her making her capable of using The Forged Needle Attack in Kamehameha-style and she did it BEFORE Shin stoled from him and even Shin couldn't do it in Kamehameha-style. The Kamehameha-style is way more powerfull than one handed.

    About Mitsuiro copying the ki of Nagi and implanting it on Mitsuomi. It will make Mitsuomi incredibly stronger than Nagi but you forgot something, Souhakou isn't Nagi's BIOLOGICAL father. Nagi's TRUE father is from Mitsuiro's BLOODLINE, his father is in fact Mitsuiro's ANCESTOR Tokuan. So Souhaku/Nagi would only need to let her do it and then copy Mitsuomi's ki making them exactly at the same level but the EXORCIST FORM allows Souhaku/Nagi to use UNLIMITED amount of ki and then defeating Mitsuomi will be easier than a walk in the park.

    @BlackAngel
    The Jyuken Club's purpose has totally nothing to do with Souhaku or the Families. It was created by Shin in order to put Bunchichi at the head of The Enforcement Group but his double K.O.(death) plan didn't work and knewing that Maya was in love with Mitsuomi he choosed to kill himself and for quite a while Mitsuomi and Maya were the only two members of The Jyuken Club because Bunchichi and Ass-senpai were in clinic. I'm pretty sure something happened between those two even if Oh.Great! didn't show it yet, because Mitsuomi was at this time The Jyuken Club Captain.

    @DollarBill
    How can Aya's Dragon Eye be an obstruction to Souhakou's plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenryuken View Post
    @Hadou-Kou
    At the bowling alley Mitsuomi only wanted to stop Nagi not Aya because he don't care about her, Aya even think that Mitsuomi is a good person( and she's right). If Maya wasn't her sister I'm pretty sure she'd follow him. Mitsuomi didn't wanted Maya or Masataka out of the way because of their fighting skills, it was Emi's plan. Didn't you see what he did to Masataka when he came out of the elevator? And he not only wanted Bob to follow him but also Maya, he asked her but she refuse and I still think he still want her because at some point he trained her making her capable of using The Forged Needle Attack in Kamehameha-style and she did it BEFORE Shin stoled from him and even Shin couldn't do it in Kamehameha-style. The Kamehameha-style is way more powerfull than one handed.

    About Mitsuiro copying the ki of Nagi and implanting it on Mitsuomi. It will make Mitsuomi incredibly stronger than Nagi but you forgot something, Souhakou isn't Nagi's BIOLOGICAL father. Nagi's TRUE father is from Mitsuiro's BLOODLINE, his father is in fact Mitsuiro's ANCESTOR Tokuan. So Souhaku/Nagi would only need to let her do it and then copy Mitsuomi's ki making them exactly at the same level but the EXORCIST FORM allows Souhaku/Nagi to use UNLIMITED amount of ki and then defeating Mitsuomi will be easier than a walk in the park.

    @BlackAngel
    The Jyuken Club's purpose has totally nothing to do with Souhaku or the Families. It was created by Shin in order to put Bunchichi at the head of The Enforcement Group but his double K.O.(death) plan didn't work and knewing that Maya was in love with Mitsuomi he choosed to kill himself and for quite a while Mitsuomi and Maya were the only two members of The Jyuken Club because Bunchichi and Ass-senpai were in clinic. I'm pretty sure something happened between those two even if Oh.Great! didn't show it yet, because Mitsuomi was at this time The Jyuken Club Captain.

    @DollarBill
    How can Aya's Dragon Eye be an obstruction to Souhakou's plan?
    First, with the Bob being asked by Mitsuomi. I just thought it was interesting because Mitsuomi, the current head of the Takayanagi Clan which is supposed to be the descendents of great heroes and masters of the martial arts would actually bow to some big black guy who just started training in the martial arts like a week ago. it wasn't like how he 'asked' Sagara by beating down his entire club, or Maya who he still has feelings for and had a significant amount of martial arts experience. Then, there was the fight with Madoka, where he was talking about Dance and how all martial arts stemmed from dancing. He said Dance is th way one connects to God and Bob's abilities can read everything that is below the moon. Kinda awkward to see Mitsuomi actually grin when he saw Bob fight.

    With the Mitsuiro plot thing, did not forget that Souhaku is not Souichiro's father biologically, however, it does not mean that Mitsuiro cannot copy Souichiro's power onto herself. What effect it would have on her, being able to absorb an infinite amount of ki, is not certain. It's not like Mitsuomi doesn't know what Souichiro is capable of at this point with the information they most likely have on Makiko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadou-kou View Post
    First, with the Bob being asked by Mitsuomi. I just thought it was interesting because Mitsuomi, the current head of the Takayanagi Clan which is supposed to be the descendents of great heroes and masters of the martial arts would actually bow to some big black guy who just started training in the martial arts like a week ago. it wasn't like how he 'asked' Sagara by beating down his entire club, or Maya who he still has feelings for and had a significant amount of martial arts experience. Then, there was the fight with Madoka, where he was talking about Dance and how all martial arts stemmed from dancing. He said Dance is th way one connects to God and Bob's abilities can read everything that is below the moon. Kinda awkward to see Mitsuomi actually grin when he saw Bob fight.

    With the Mitsuiro plot thing, did not forget that Souhaku is not Souichiro's father biologically, however, it does not mean that Mitsuiro cannot copy Souichiro's power onto herself. What effect it would have on her, being able to absorb an infinite amount of ki, is not certain. It's not like Mitsuomi doesn't know what Souichiro is capable of at this point with the information they most likely have on Makiko.
    You're saying that Mitsuomi is supposed to be the descendents of great heroes and masters of the martial arts and I agree with you. I personnally think that Mitsuomi possess all the White Featers abilities because even if he's a martial artist he does not practice a specific martial art. The same goes for Masataka and they use the same technics(kamehameha-style Forged Needle Attack and the weird rotation punch Mitsuomi used on Shin and Masataka on Fu'), so maybe they also possess Red Feathers abilities but we all know that those powers activate themselves radomly. Remember what Nokimi said to Ass-senpei and also why did Dougen create all this Resonance thing at school if it didn't affect Mitsuomi or Masataka? Dougen wanted the True Warrior to be Mitsuomi, maybe he needed all this Resonance thing to awake Mitsuomi's powers but Mitsuomi didn't got his plan right and now he wants to eliminate all the Red Feathers and die because with all his ressources he could have taken care of his heart condition. Mitsuomi has in is big staff members of the Hotaru Red Feather Family and even that old lady seems to cooperate with him. There was also F, I'm sure Souhaku and Tetsuhito(his Dragon Palm is like a million time more effectif than the old lady's) proposed to cure him but he probably refused. I wonder if Maya is gonna let him die because if she fought with Tetsuhito to protect him even if she perfectly knew she didn't match Tetsuhito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenryuken View Post
    You're saying that Mitsuomi is supposed to be the descendents of great heroes and masters of the martial arts and I agree with you. I personnally think that Mitsuomi possess all the White Featers abilities because even if he's a martial artist he does not practice a specific martial art. The same goes for Masataka and they use the same technics(kamehameha-style Forged Needle Attack and the weird rotation punch Mitsuomi used on Shin and Masataka on Fu'), so maybe they also possess Red Feathers abilities but we all know that those powers activate themselves radomly. Remember what Nokimi said to Ass-senpei and also why did Dougen create all this Resonance thing at school if it didn't affect Mitsuomi or Masataka? Dougen wanted the True Warrior to be Mitsuomi, maybe he needed all this Resonance thing to awake Mitsuomi's powers but Mitsuomi didn't got his plan right and now he wants to eliminate all the Red Feathers and die because with all his ressources he could have taken care of his heart condition. Mitsuomi has in is big staff members of the Hotaru Red Feather Family and even that old lady seems to cooperate with him. There was also F, I'm sure Souhaku and Tetsuhito(his Dragon Palm is like a million time more effectif than the old lady's) proposed to cure him but he probably refused. I wonder if Maya is gonna let him die because if she fought with Tetsuhito to protect him even if she perfectly knew she didn't match Tetsuhito.
    Pretty sure the Takayanagi's don't possess any red feather abilities nor every single White Feather style since most of them involve the use of weapons, which I have yet so see any Takayanagi use. Dougen said that he wanted to gather all of the Red and White feather abilities into a single form and use that person to regain power. In order for that to happen he needed to gather people with red feather abilities in one location, that being the school. The three people in the Jyuken Club with special powers are Nagi and Aya, with their clan's dragon's gate, and Maya with the Amaterasu Dragon Gate. That has already been stated. As far as Mitsuomi's condition, I don't think the Hotaru Clan can actually heal that. They said their power just uses the person's ki to speed up their metabolism so they heal faster. Remember right after Shin shot that blast of ki into Mitsuomi and they took him to the hospital, the doctors said that there was nothing wrong with Mitsuomi's heart, but when he did something that took some physical effort, the rate at which the heart would beat was faster than a normal human. So, it's most likely not something a Hotaru can do. Besides, the Hotaru seem to be aligned with the Jyuken Club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadou-kou View Post
    Pretty sure the Takayanagi's don't possess any red feather abilities nor every single White Feather style since most of them involve the use of weapons, which I have yet so see any Takayanagi use. Dougen said that he wanted to gather all of the Red and White feather abilities into a single form and use that person to regain power. In order for that to happen he needed to gather people with red feather abilities in one location, that being the school. The three people in the Jyuken Club with special powers are Nagi and Aya, with their clan's dragon's gate, and Maya with the Amaterasu Dragon Gate. That has already been stated. As far as Mitsuomi's condition, I don't think the Hotaru Clan can actually heal that. They said their power just uses the person's ki to speed up their metabolism so they heal faster. Remember right after Shin shot that blast of ki into Mitsuomi and they took him to the hospital, the doctors said that there was nothing wrong with Mitsuomi's heart, but when he did something that took some physical effort, the rate at which the heart would beat was faster than a normal human. So, it's most likely not something a Hotaru can do. Besides, the Hotaru seem to be aligned with the Jyuken Club.
    You're saying "Dougen said that he wanted to gather all of the Red and White feather abilities into a single form and use that person to regain power". but at that time he already was in power. During the fight between Mitsuomi and Shin, Mitsuomi activated Reiki when he was about to kill Shin.
    About his condition, do you think Aya is the only person that can cure Mitsuomi ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenryuken View Post
    You're saying "Dougen said that he wanted to gather all of the Red and White feather abilities into a single form and use that person to regain power". but at that time he already was in power. During the fight between Mitsuomi and Shin, Mitsuomi activated Reiki when he was about to kill Shin.
    About his condition, do you think Aya is the only person that can cure Mitsuomi ?
    True, Dougen did have power back two years ago, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't want more. What I meant by regaining power is that the Takayanagi Clan as well as the other twelve families are just descendants from Susa who was the original True Warrior. By putting all of those powers and abilities into one person (most likely Souichiro since he's the only one who can potentially use both red and white feather techniques), he believes that he can restore the Takayanagi clan back to where it was over four hundred years ago. As far as Aya saving Mitsuomi, I don't think so. I think what you're getting at is that Aya's Dragon Eye can use an infinite amount of ki and if there was a way for her to transfer Mitsuomi's ki into herself and then activate her Dragon's Eye then it could make Mitsuomi's heart normal. Like they said, Mitsuomi's heartbeat is like that of someone on drugs or adrenaline being pumped into the heart, except like a normal athlete where their heartrate slows down, his doesn't. That's why they said two years ago that even if Mitsuomi were to stop fighting, he only have a couple of years left.

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    Dougen using Souichiro as a means of getting back into power is all good and well in theory, but the reality of the situation is that it just won't work. Not because Souichiro isn't physically capable, but because Souichiro wouldn't serve Dougen at all. We've already seen that he doesn't think highly of the old man due to what happened between Shin, Maya, and Mitsuomi. Not to mention the fact that his loyalties already lie with Maya, so I really don't see him katowing to Dougen's wishes and ambitions.

 

 
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