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    Hadou-kou is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    Kuneho got to it before I could post. The same way he was training Shin might be the same reason he was training Nagi. Nagi right now is a much bigger threat to the school if he went crazy than Shin was. A greater threat calls for a greater warrior to handle that threat. Balannce; yin/yang; heaven/earth
    Which makes me think that maybe this story has become too predictable and that there's no chance of changing the wheels of fate since no matter what path they try to take, it'll end up the same. If Masataka were to fight Nagi, Souhaku would definetely come out since Masataka fights entirely using ki attacks. Thinking of that, Mitsuomi might know this and it could be the reason why he gathered mostly people that don't use Ki attacks like Bunshichi and Tagami, but can still hold their own against those who do. It would explain why he told Ishiyumi not to rely on his water dragon gate after he lost it. Emi, Bunshichi, Kagurazaka, Tagami, Bob (to some extent. I think he's with Mitsuomi ever since that scene at the hospital after he fought Madoka. We never got an answer from Bob and when they were being released, the walk-pass seemed a little odd).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuneho View Post
    I've always thought of nagi being the ultimate red feather because he has the ability to possess all of the red feather powers, effectively making him the "true demon" in contrast of the "true warrior" being the ultimate white feather.

    "So why of all people did he train Nagi and not Masataka then?"

    I'm guessing it's the somewhat same reason dougen was "training" shin.
    He trained Shin and Mitsoumi at the same time, where is the Masataka training?

    Doesn't mean he couldn't be training Nagi to be the true warrior either. :P
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    we don't even know if masataka IS being groomed to be the true warrior... aside from what souhaku briefly suspected after the fu'chien fight. for all we know, mitsuomi could still be the true warrior.

    as far as him not being trained..

    it's only been 3 years since the unexpected takeover of the takayanagi leadership, I doubt dougen has the resources to make masataka undergo all the stuff he did to mitsuomi. and having learned from his mistakes, tries to keep masataka out of the "wheel" which he(dougen) is part of.

    Or maybe dougen thinks masataka is already powerful enough as-is.

    the only guy that actually said masataka was weak is mitsuomi but he was intentionally downplaying him. kagiroi acknowledged masataka's strength, and souhaku even went as far as to think of him as a possible "true warrior".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadou-kou View Post
    Kuneho got to it before I could post. The same way he was training Shin might be the same reason he was training Nagi. Nagi right now is a much bigger threat to the school if he went crazy than Shin was. A greater threat calls for a greater warrior to handle that threat. Balannce; yin/yang; heaven/earth
    Which makes me think that maybe this story has become too predictable and that there's no chance of changing the wheels of fate since no matter what path they try to take, it'll end up the same. If Masataka were to fight Nagi, Souhaku would definetely come out since Masataka fights entirely using ki attacks. Thinking of that, Mitsuomi might know this and it could be the reason why he gathered mostly people that don't use Ki attacks like Bunshichi and Tagami, but can still hold their own against those who do. It would explain why he told Ishiyumi not to rely on his water dragon gate after he lost it. Emi, Bunshichi, Kagurazaka, Tagami, Bob (to some extent. I think he's with Mitsuomi ever since that scene at the hospital after he fought Madoka. We never got an answer from Bob and when they were being released, the walk-pass seemed a little odd).

    this fits quite well with the theory that ichiyou nagi is/was still trying to neutralize the powers of the red feathers.

    if the ultimate white feather fights the ultimate red feather while the neutralization is in effect, then the red feather woud obviously lose.. pissing off souhaku very greatly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaZero View Post
    What exactly is a "True Warrior" and a "True Demon"? Any one of us can keep taking crack guesses and making references to the manga, but if you think about it there's been multiple opinions from different characters which kind of blows up the whole idea of there being a canon definition and anything we say is simply speculation which really means squat.

    well, that's just the way it is.

    we all do that.

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    Kuneho, you've been here long enough that you should know one thing about ST...NO DOUBLE POSTING much alone TRIPLE POSTING or anything more when you could use the edit button....

    Nova just proved another point, it's all speculation. Which is the reason why I said Nagi could be the possible true warrior. We both have points, but it could mean poop if one of us ends up wrong. I'm not going to debate about how Nagi could be the true warrior anymore until something is clearly said about either Nagi or Masataka.
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    fair enough.


    I apologize for the triple post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vphamv View Post
    He trained Shin and Mitsoumi at the same time, where is the Masataka training?

    Doesn't mean he couldn't be training Nagi to be the true warrior either. :P
    Shin -> dies -> Nagi Succeeds
    Mitsuomi -> lives and keeps power -> maintains title or illusion of it

    I'm not saying this is the explanation, but it is a possible explanation. Though I did make it vague enough to fill with holes about Shin's actual candidacy for the role...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    Shin -> dies -> Nagi Succeeds
    Mitsuomi -> lives and keeps power -> maintains title or illusion of it

    I'm not saying this is the explanation, but it is a possible explanation. Though I did make it vague enough to fill with holes about Shin's actual candidacy for the role...
    >_> ......

    <_< ....... what?

    I've no clue what you're trying to tell me at all, and I was never talking to you when I wrote that. And tbh, I really don't care so no need to explain. You've been confusing me way too much lately.

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    if Masataka is the true warrior, then what was the point of having Nagi as Main character?????

 

 
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