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    squigeyjoe is offline Senior Member Frequent Poster
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    i dont really see kazu and masataka being that similar.but if there is a link then masataka is definatly the cooler version

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    Quote Originally Posted by squigeyjoe View Post
    i dont really see kazu and masataka being that similar.but if there is a link then masataka is definatly the cooler version
    both:
    1.kinda shy and shaky
    2.thinks a lot (at times TOO MUCH)
    3.has kind of an inferiority complex (kazu to ikki, masataka to mitsuomi(stronger than him) or souichirou(aya))
    4.girls like them(madoka and emily)

    But I think both are pretty cool, except kazu is weak right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeltakerx View Post
    I think Masataka may be the true warrior and souichiro may be the true demon.
    I don't know about Nagi being the "true demon", but I also think that Masataka is the "true warrior". This has been alluded to several times in TT, including Souhaku wondering the same thing after his magic is broken by Masataka's defeat of the resurrected Fu Chi'en at the end of chapter 74 (vol. 12 pg. 161).

    But this isn't the main reason I like Masataka. Mostly, Masataka knows, more than anyone else around him Why He Fights, a topic that keeps reappearing in TT. And that may ultimately be what makes him the "true warrior", more than any physical or metaphysical ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordfish II View Post
    But this isn't the main reason I like Masataka. Mostly, Masataka knows, more than anyone else around him Why He Fights, a topic that keeps reappearing in TT. And that may ultimately be what makes him the "true warrior", more than any physical or metaphysical ability.
    Well, that may be true, but the story has not ended and no one has been declared the true warrior or true demon, so O!G could just end up making it so Souichirou says "oh this is why I fight. blah blah blah" and potentially have an even better reason to fight than Masataka does. Although I do admit that at this point Masataka probably has the most noble reason to fight.
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    ^That would seriously piss me off. I like Masa because he is the most cool-headed and caring person. He's not some stupid punk like Bob and Souichirou are and he shows a lot of wisdom despite his relative inexperience.

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    I think souichirou's reason was already shown..."to see her smiling face again"
    That refers to (not sure) his mother.

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    ^ That could also refer to Maya too.

    Saying that Masataka is the most level headed doesn't say much in this manga though. Just about everyone has went into a point of rage and I do see it a lot with Masataka. Soichirou for whatever stupid reason he could come up with, Bob whenever Chiaki is in danger or hurt, everyone back in the Shin Arc, Aya with Tagami; it doesn't mean anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadou-kou View Post
    ^ That could also refer to Maya too.

    Saying that Masataka is the most level headed doesn't say much in this manga though. Just about everyone has went into a point of rage and I do see it a lot with Masataka. Soichirou for whatever stupid reason he could come up with, Bob whenever Chiaki is in danger or hurt, everyone back in the Shin Arc, Aya with Tagami; it doesn't mean anything
    Actually those are some purdy valid points, in the very begining when Souichirou challenged Masataka, Masataka beat his arse pretty bad because he got extremely pissed.

    And well, I just thought "to see her smiling face again" was just something he wanted to happen for her, whoever he's talking about. I never thought about it as his reason to fight but I suppose that can be true since he has not flat out said it yet.
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    Souichirou seemed to care about his mother a lot. He also mentioned (never out loud) "I just wanted to see mother smile"...or something like that.

    Masataka is kind of level-headed, but every person does have a breaking point. In the beginning, souichirou took away his crush, cheated in battle, and was disrespectful to masataka, causing masataka to lose his temper. He even knocked away maya and aya.

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    Souichiro reaveled on Souhaku's "death" that his only reason for fighting was to bring his father back and make his mother smile. We all saw that his mother had genuine affection, while his father only viewed her as a failure and used her to ensure his second attempt would succeed. At the hospital scene, we saw that all his mother wanted, was for him to stay with her. Her love for him goes beyond his taking her eye and arm (the eye in the attempt to utilize the Dragon Fist's source of power, and her arm to show his "letting her go as his wife").

    We saw in the beggining, through Aya, that he has never forgotten his betrayel, and that though he can never forgive him, he can never let go of his love for him either. Its safe to say that through Souichiro's actions after Souhaku's "betrayel" that he truly believed his father loved him and his mother, and that they were really a happy family. Souhaku obviously showed him love and affection, through the practice he had perfected throughout the centuries.

 

 
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