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    Dante Obscuri is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Default MPC & 1280x720 videos

    I've been trying to play hi-res videos in MPC for a while but, so far, it's not been possible. At first, I thought the problem was that my PC didn't support h.264 files; however, recently I downloaded some h.264 files but with a 720x400 resolution and worked properly. That, and I also downloaded some XviD videos that MPC wouldn't play properly (these videos had a 1280x720 resolution).

    One day fooling around, I tried playing the hi-res videos on Winamp, and it worked. So, I was wondering, how can I make MPC play those videos properly?

    Honestly, I wouldn't care about using both but, Winamp has problems displaying soft-subs, and it has become quite difficult to search for XviD videos nowadays.

    Thanks in advance.


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    I had no problems playing those on MPC on my computer. On an older computer I noticed that MPC had worse performance with high resolution videos than other media players (VLC played it smooth, while MPC stuttered every few seconds), so I'm guessing your system just isn't fast enough to run high resolution videos using MPC.

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    Yup, that's basically it. More RAM *might* help, but probably not enough. It's more of a processor thing.

    In anycase, I don't belive it's Media Player Classic that's doing the work on H.264 here. It's probably a decoder like FFDshow. The thing is that there are different decoders (codecs) because some of them are better than others. FFDshow gives great quality, but is slower. Another one called CoreAVC is said to be faster, but ocationally you see some deficiencies in it (not exactly sure what... don't pay that close attention to the fansubber's arguments anymore).

    So point is, find out what is loading up when you play a h.264 video through MPC and then try a different one.
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    If your computer's running at anything more than a gig of ram and 1.5ghz, go for cccp-project.net. It can totally work if you have shittier specs, but anything lower than 512ram you should just go with VLC or something.
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    Just ram wont help, you also need a descent computer..

    Bare minimun P4 3GHz (what I have)
    But that is for running without any post-processing!!
    (that kinda defeat the purpose of h.264 as you can tweak the image to the best quality using it..)

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    I've played large H.264 files on a P3-900MHz notebook with 384MB. Not well--there was some lag and stuttering in action scenes, and I had to do some tweaking--but it played. I wouldn't call P4-3GHz a minimum.

    Anyways, that's not the point. The OP said the videos played okay in Winamp on the same computer. It's MPC or whatever filters that MPC uses that's giving them problems with large resolution files (Xvid or H264).

    Unfortunately I don't use MPC much, but I'll try to help you anyways. My suggestion is to look at the output settings of MPC and of the filter that's decoding your Xvid/H.264 files. One thing you can try is to change the rendering to Overlay either ON or OFF (try both, and re-open the video each time). There are settings for this in MPC, but the setting in your codec is probably the one actually being used. Another thing to try is to set the MPC option to start in full screen mode, or try turning off the option to auto-resize the window (these might be relevant to your problem with the resolution).

    If you don't feel like experimenting, you can install CCCP or VLC as xxsaznpride suggested. Those two usually "just work." My preferred player is mplayer, which also usually just works, but I use the commandline version and roll my own config file rather than use the graphical interface.

    Good luck

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    Even with a P4, you WON'T be able to play a 1080p video at full frames..
    You might get best 17-18fps~ (720p, is another story)

    Its plain and simple, you don't have lastest model computer you won't be able to play HD on it! (anything less then 24frames is no for me, I just can't stand the "lag")


    Dante, check your MPC Configuration ( View > Options )
    Under "Internal filters"

    Take note of what is marked.. and simply uncheck everything.
    This will force mpc to use external filters (ffdshow) for everything.

    Try opening the video.

    If the video plays but its choppy, laggy whatever..

    Go to FFDSHOW Video decoder configuration:
    Uncheck everything but subtitles.


    Apply, and restart the video.. if still laggy.. no sir, there is nothing wrong with MPC or the Video.. its just your computer can't handle 1080p at 1280x768.

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    Thanks for all the replies.

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerm View Post
    Unfortunately I don't use MPC much, but I'll try to help you anyways. My suggestion is to look at the output settings of MPC and of the filter that's decoding your Xvid/H.264 files. One thing you can try is to change the rendering to Overlay either ON or OFF (try both, and re-open the video each time). There are settings for this in MPC, but the setting in your codec is probably the one actually being used. Another thing to try is to set the MPC option to start in full screen mode, or try turning off the option to auto-resize the window (these might be relevant to your problem with the resolution).
    Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

    I just had ffdshow resize the video and now it's being played properly, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by irecinius View Post
    Dante, check your MPC Configuration ( View > Options )
    Under "Internal filters"

    Take note of what is marked.. and simply uncheck everything.
    This will force mpc to use external filters (ffdshow) for everything.

    Try opening the video.

    If the video plays but its choppy, laggy whatever..
    Yes, now I have ffdshow doing everything, thanks.


 

 

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