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    metrobluejay is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    ecchi: it ain't really ecchi except for a moment here and there.
    Isn't that what ecchi is? It isn't nudity all the time, hell it isn't even showing underwear, it's the emphasis of the female figure by wearing tight clothes.

    Romance: what romance?
    Romance is a fancy word for love story. Yamato loves Suzuka, Suzuka loves Yamato but doesn't want to realize it herself (at first), realizes it and goes out with him, then breaks up with him. They both still love eachother, but Suzuka wants to be friends instead of fighting all the time. Yamato is going to keep chasing her. Still a love story.

    School Life: School Life ain't that fake
    Having a major setting of the story deal with some type of school. (manga updates definition for school life.)

    This has gone away from it because the main characters are graduating. Can't be in school if you don't go there. But at the beginning and middle, a lot of the interaction (help for Yamato) was at school. Also the Track team is a school club.

    Shounen: where's the action? and just because the main character is male and not female doesn't make it shounen. It's overly emo just like a shoujo.
    A work intended and primarily written for males. These works usually involve fighting and/or violence.

    The definition that Mangaupdates gives for Shounen. Look at the first sentence, Kouji could be writing this intending it to be for males. I don't know what Kouji thinks though so I have no clue. The key to the second sentence is usually, meaning not all the time. You don't need fighting and/or violence to make it a shounen.

    Sports: What sports, 135 chapters, couple of practices and 1 tournament shown.
    The first page of the manga was Suzuka high jumping. The manga revolved around Track, it hasn't shown much of it, but it revolves around it. The main female is a track star. The main male started liking the main female because of how she looked high jumping. The main male joins the track team to be closer to the main female. Secondary female joins track team to be closer to main male. Main female likes a track star who died. Main male resembles dead track star which probably starts Suzuka even liking him. Main female goes to America to improve her ability in Track. A lot of the plot devices had Track underneath it.

    no real cliffangers, badly introduced characters and exited just like they were introduced, bad character dev., pointless subplots.
    Do you need cliffhangers to read a manga? They want you to keep reading, but if you are going to read it, you are going to read it.

    There have been few characters that have been introduced since the beginning of the manga. Saki is the only one that comes to mind that really follows your definition. And she's even pushing it. People have disappeared (Yasunobu, Miki, The big boob College girl, Yui) without any mention of why they weren't there. But at the moment none of those are vital to the current arc, Suzuka's return and reasons behind what she did. Honoka was given an ample out.

    I'm not very good at analyzing character development or subplots so meh.

    You think this is enough to prove your points wrong?

    Oh yeah, read the guy's above post a bit closer before you tell him what he knows.
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    xxDoLLarBiLLxx,

    I'm not one that thinks Suzuka is all that great either but...

    Just stop while you are only a few miles behind.

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    hohoho....another debates of good or bad on spoilers discussion

    obviously, xxdollarbillxx u have no point in criticizing someone opinion who defends this manga...at least, i guess u somewhat like this art at first but it went out of your hope otherwise you won't end up yourself reading this 135 ch. manga

    i agree with d.A, not the great one but still an interesting one...

    and as of ch. 135, i guess the author tries to build a starting development for yamato...cmiiw

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    xxDoLLarBiLLxx i just think that all your specifications for suzuka is umm how should i put it... disappearing i think is the right word... because "maybe" the manga is coming to an end but most of metrobluejay comments are true they can be seen in the manga but now disappearing as we reach the climax of the story... this is just my opinion... =/
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    Just to kept in mind. It is a story and it wont be a story if there is no plot. The plot evolve around the character in this manga so it still a sport manga even it just got some training and a tournament, it still a school life because its setting said so and it still a damn romance manga because it has some romance. The idea here is even the life of the story is somewhat FAKE but it still a story and worth to read.
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    you guys amaze me man, i'll tell you that. This is what you call DENIAL at its best. Im in awe on how you guys keep denying that suzuka is not a shitty manga. Boring people like boring things, there is nothing you can do about it, that's life.

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    ...make that 5-10 miles behind.

    Suzuka has no romance? You are not reading the same manga as me that's for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx
    you guys amaze me man, i'll tell you that. This is what you call DENIAL at its best. Im in awe on how you guys keep denying that suzuka is not a shitty manga. Boring people like boring things, there is nothing you can do about it, that's life.
    You amaze me man, I'll tell you that. This is denial and idiocy at its best. I'm surprised at how someone can continue to blindly ignore every tidbit of logic placed in front of him. Idiots will continue to think like idiots, there's nothing we can do about it, that's life.


    You say even Stevie Wonder can see this manga sucks?

    We say even Mike Tyson can tell your logic is retarded.


    I honestly can't believe this is coming from someone who adequately addresses the impertinent lack of interest generated in the manga yet continues to read it.

    Way to be a friggin hypocrite.

    If your still reading about it, you care enough to find out about the story thus you are interested.

    Thus since people are actually reading this "shitty manga," it must be considered by some as interesting. A comment saying this manga is interesting is proved true by people actually taking time to discuss it. No one said this was the best manga ever, the vast majority says it's just borderline decent.


    Bitching about how this manga sucks is fine and all, but don't go berating more knowledgeable posters than yourself on how the manga sucks just because you think it does.

    Save the berating talk for when you have the literary merit to create something close to it and have the balls to show it to the public.


    Get this straight, I used to avidly read and analyze this manga, but got bored by recent events and currently on the verge of dropping it. Hell, many of the posters in this sub-forum can vouch for my long-winded essays of how Suzuka lacked the same merit as many other similar mangas. However no matter how boring it is now, that doesn't take anything away from the beginning. If it did, any manga with a bad ending is automatically labeled as a worthless read.


    Using your logic, Slam Dunk sucks because it arguably didn't live up to its potential. Using your logic, Prince of Tennis sucks because it fails to adequately address anything romantic. Using your logic Eyeshield 21 sucks because it's wholly unrealistic. Using your logic, Ichigo 100% fails because it had no action. Using your logic, Love Hina sucks because the story isn't even plausible. Using your logic, anything improperly labeled as Shougo sucks because its called that.

    An anticlimactic plot does not equate a horrible plot. Nor does failure to fit a certain niche translate into failure to address fans.


    I assume you breath oxygen. Apparently your sycophantic E-Penis is preventing oxygen from reaching your brain. It's in your best interest to get that fixed.
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    d.A f.t.w(For The Win)

    ~clap clap~

    Just like d.A says even the manga is damn boring, the story is damn fake, the logic is damn ****, still it is worth and interesting to read.

    I also say that this manga is cheap both in the plot and the build-up around the character but i still read it and that is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikilala View Post
    d.A f.t.w(For The Win)

    ~clap clap~

    Just like d.A says even the manga is damn boring, the story is damn fake, the logic is damn ****, still it is worth and interesting to read.

    I also say that this manga is cheap both in the plot and the build-up around the character but i still read it and that is a fact.
    Agreed
    although you did have a few points in the begining xxDoLLarBiLLxx, you're just embarassing yourself now, especially with your last few posts. even though you said you hated this manga and stopped reading it a while ago, it seems like you continue to read this manga. i was kinda with you for some of the things you said before, but now its just pathetic...
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    Wooow I am amazed... With just a few posts you've made everyone here hate you xxdoLLarbiLLxx. You could've just said your opinion but noooo you just had to start bashing everyone. I bet you're the kinda type that just can't admit that you're wrong? I know a few guys like that and guess what, their friends just talk shit about him behind his back.
    Last edited by longinuz; 01-27-2007 at 10:33 AM.

 

 
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