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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikilala View Post
    Hmm.. i forgot the volume 15. So i guess it is true. Even nishino came out on every last page of the trip chapter. It is obviously for nishino fan and not for the story. But still, it dont count as a story in the manga.

    Firstly, the story flow in ichigo is easily to think of, the hint is not saying that it will end up with toujou but nishino instead. There is a why here.

    1. Why does everytime they met during date, they have a confession scene. Even if it is a semi-confession, it is still count as one.
    2. The author build a strong connection and bound for both the main play but why does toujou didnt have that strong background. Even when they broke-up, the author make sure there will be something that can get them along back.
    3. About the broke-up. Sorry zikor, it is not why is he do that but why the author do that. It is obvious that,it is done to make Manaka starting to thinking about Nishino and not because he space up.If you want the reason in term of the hero itself, it is easy to describe. the day they braek-up is christmas. Likely, it is his first christmas with someone, he never thought it will be like that. The story of his sorrow continue and even Manaka just thinking about Nishino all the time and it likely because he has a sudden crush on her.( It mean he has been thinking about her more than anything)
    Likewise, it is normal if Manaka didnt make any move because he never have been in that kind of situation before. Even the author also have telling us that Manaka didnt like to see romance movie, so it is not like what you think(waiting for toujou confession, the possibilities is below 10%).

    and for the 4 it is not a question but it is under the word love.
    Love and like is not the same. If you ever like someone, it is good but love is a total opposite of it. So, Ichigo 100% manga has a theme and the theme is similar to Suzuka that is about love and not like. The definition of love is something we must thing about. Manaka NEVER love Toujou, i can definitely type it down the contrass of feeling that he have toward Nishino is something that 'love' is.

    Different from Suzuka, the 'love' being used by the author too freely. So it is hard to say what will the story goes with everyone. But about Honoka getting a boyfriend, it is not that odd because Honoka never have been and is not the main character. So as it was that, the scene is not needed. But basically, the possibilities of she being chosen is quite high, let say 50%, rather than Suzuka 38%. In my certain veiw, i can say the story is kinda first person view of Yamato but there is some of view from Honoka also. I read it through as fast as i can and it is likely that there is some point of view of Honoka in the early part of this story and there not many personal view of Suzuka. But the possibilities drop to 40% as the story goes and make it 35% when she come again in this late of this story. Maybe i will wait for about 5 to 10 more chapter. It is because, the possibilities that Honoka will end up with Yamato will increase to 45% if and only if she called him to say it is all fake about his bf because it is a possibilities, so i rather counted it as 1 of it( it is hard to say it because honoka didnt even know that suzuka are back from America, so why bother to fake it up.. that what i think)

    Lastly, it is all about human nature, logic is the 1st think that come and something that discrete is 2nd. So a drastic change is hard for a human and it is more harder to accept it.

    A human heart is hard to determine but it is easy to understand, the faces that came out usually the riddle for the answer. If you had to give rather than take, it same as you prefer to loss rather than remember.

    ~ life is all about finding, without a noun everything is meaningless~

    of course they would always a confession be( cause they have a relationship) 2nd dats wrong he loves toujo more dan nishino b4...even at the last end when manaka found out dat the guy toujo is with was her bro.... manaka let go of nishino's hand at that time.... and after the incident were toujo kiss manaka while sleeping....he also said if he had properly express his feeling " maybe just maybe....definetly" (theyt would end up together... as u can see der is no doubt dat if toujo confesses as the same b4 he would have choosen toujo...and he said it himself toujo was hes first love.... the only reason that he chose nishino dan toujo is bcoz he was able to feel the love between dem...as of toujo he never had an intimate time with her.... even nishino knows dat manaka feels something for toujo...dats why they broke up.....

    anbd one more thing if he was not waiting for toujo's confession den why didnt he mend his relationship with nishino afdter broken up...its obvious bcoz he know dat he feels somthing for toujo....and nishino is not one of the main characters as well either same as honoka.....

    why bother to fake it up(about honoka) it is bcoz shes already fed up with yamato.... its to much pressure(emotionally) for her....yes she doenst know about suzuka is back from US...it just hurts her the most that her rival in love is still winning the guyz heart even though she in the other side of the world...ill repeat it again to much pressure... she just want to move on.... and that is the only way for her to move on cause she knows dat yamato would try to do somthing to mend there friendship...and she doesnt want dat.... honoka said its not fair to her BF if they should see each other...but its also not fair having a relationship with someone in-order for you to move on..(honoka's bf) is just like a moving dummy....if thats the really case.... thats not very honoka-like either
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    Default The story about 2 main character

    Ichigo 100% didnt have 2 main but it is 3 main character.

    It is not things that around manaka and toujou but only manaka junpei.

    I guess a matured person will understand why the story goes like that but for some of people they cant understand.

    I will type it down here the reason why it is like that.

    1. The flow of the story did say that it should end up with toujou instead of nishino. But if you read it from the middle to the end, Tsukasa is likely being the one that will be chosen.
    2. Forget the flow, just read it in 1st,2nd and 3rd volume. It all is a childish acting by the main character. The serious part is after Manaka got dumped in the story. that is the turning point that the story getting serious.
    3. Everytime nishino wish. it is a wish that they will back together.
    4. Every story have its start, elaborate,climax and finish. In this story it start with the 3 main. Elaborate with adding a girl and some classmate/clubmate. Climax with the confession of nishino and it end up chosing the nishino herself.

    the true is i rather happy manaka pick nishino. It is because, nishino almost sacrifice everything to get manaka. Izumi high, time with manaka, all the fan after her, and even the irresponsible behavior of manaka. It is complex to describe but i think most of the reader know what i mean.

    ~The reason why the sky is white is because it is pure, it is desribing the mind of human who is open minded~

    geez u r a very naive person to say something like this. the reason why he let go his hand it because he dont want toujou to get the feeling like satsuki got the day before.

    It is rather complex to tell this but if you want me to describe the story, i will say it in term of human psychology and behavior. But before that, ask yourself that,do you have a gf/bf? i dont know what to say but if you are a girl maybe you not matured enough andif you are a boy, you surely didnt understand woman/girl. Sorry to say that i am a male but i study alot under the human nature and behavior. If you want me to give you the reason for all the story, i will send an e-mail regarding this issues.
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    Kikilala, I really don't know why you try with this one.

    Zikor21 has two long pages of text that proves him wrong.

    Just be complacent with the fact that you think you're right.

    If someone wants to be wrong, let 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikilala View Post
    (i take human physcology in university thought -.-)
    For god's sakes at least spell psychology correctly. Universities are for smart people. Spell like a smart person.

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    of course they would always a confession be( cause they have a relationship) 2nd dats wrong he loves toujo more dan nishino b4...even at the last end when manaka found out dat the guy toujo is with was her bro.... manaka let go of nishino's hand at that time.... and after the incident were toujo kiss manaka while sleeping....he also said if he had properly express his feeling " maybe just maybe....definetly" (theyt would end up together... as u can see der is no doubt dat if toujo confesses as the same b4 he would have choosen toujo...and he said it himself toujo was hes first love.... the only reason that he chose nishino dan toujo is bcoz he was able to feel the love between dem...as of toujo he never had an intimate time with her.... even nishino knows dat manaka feels something for toujo...dats why they broke up.....
    Manaka and Nishino had been broken up for a long time before the birthday that Manaka didn't even know about. That's first year of high school, and they don't even start going out again until after her birthday when they are seniors. That's 2 years where their only relationship was being just friends.

    He let go of her hand when he found out it was her brother because it surprised the hell out of him to find out she wasn't going out with anyone. I think the only reason he said yes to Nishino's confession was because of the news that Toujo was going out with someone. He was torn between the two and learning that news just made it an easier decsion for him.

    Looking at the whole manga, I see that during the first volumes Mananka likes Toujo more than Nishino. When you progress towards the middle volumes it becomes more equal as to who he likes more, then with the final volumes he likes Nishino more. Aya is still in his heart through the whole time, though, because you can hardly every forget the first person you have a serious like for. Not one of those elementary crushes. But that doesn't mean he loves her like he loves Nishino. The only way Aya and Manaka are connected is through Manaka's dream, while him and Nishino have something deeper than that.

    anbd one more thing if he was not waiting for toujo's confession den why didnt he mend his relationship with nishino afdter broken up...its obvious bcoz he know dat he feels somthing for toujo....and nishino is not one of the main characters as well either same as honoka.....
    What break up? If you're talking about the first time, you're right it is because he liked Toujo. His confession with Nishino was a mistaken identity case. He thought he was confessing to the person who he had seen earlier, he really didn't "like" Nishino compared to the girl who fell from the sky. If it's the second break-up then he let her go. Nothing he said would've made her stay, so why stay together when you are going to be half a world apart. But by this time his eyes are all for Nishino, Aya's still connected to him, but only through the dream.

    why bother to fake it up(about honoka) it is bcoz shes already fed up with yamato.... its to much pressure(emotionally) for her....yes she doenst know about suzuka is back from US...it just hurts her the most that her rival in love is still winning the guyz heart even though she in the other side of the world...ill repeat it again to much pressure... she just want to move on.... and that is the only way for her to move on cause she knows dat yamato would try to do somthing to mend there friendship...and she doesnt want dat.... honoka said its not fair to her BF if they should see each other...but its also not fair having a relationship with someone in-order for you to move on..(honoka's bf) is just like a moving dummy....if thats the really case.... thats not very honoka-like either
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    psy·chol·o·gy (s-kl-j)
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    1. The science that deals with mental processes and behavior.
    2. The emotional and behavioral characteristics of an individual, group, or activity.

    sorry about the spelling thought. I was typing p/s under it that i make some typos. hish.. dont go so hard on me. I was writing in a middle of the morning without sleep.

    Kikilala, I really don't know why you try with this one.
    for sempai, i am sorry but i cant get what do u mean by this. And sorry if i make alot of gramatical error and typos. I study in local university and it hardly use english as telecomunication language so i really sorry if there are some typos that i mistakenly wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d.A. View Post
    Kikilala, I really don't know why you try with this one.

    Zikor21 has two long pages of text that proves him wrong.

    Just be complacent with the fact that you think you're right.

    If someone wants to be wrong, let 'em.

    But do me one favor...



    For god's sakes at least spell psychology correctly. Universities are for smart people. Spell like a smart person.
    mind ur own business...ill believe...in wat i believe in.... dis are just comments nad i know dat i might be wrong but... dont assume dat u are right.... tsktsktsk
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    [QUOTE=geez u r a very naive person to say something like this. the reason why he let go his hand it because he dont want toujou to get the feeling like satsuki got the day before.

    heloo earth to u....even manaka himself doenst know y he let go of nishino's hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikilala View Post
    It is rather complex to tell this but if you want me to describe the story, i will say it in term of human psychology and behavior. But before that, ask yourself that,do you have a gf/bf? i dont know what to say but if you are a girl maybe you not matured enough andif you are a boy, you surely didnt understand woman/girl. Sorry to say that i am a male but i study alot under the human nature and behavior. If you want me to give you the reason for all the story, i will send an e-mail regarding this issues.
    the way u said this is like u act better than us bcoz u studied human nature and behaviour.... wel for me its sure sounds like dat.... yes i do have a gf and were doing quite welll.. u see theres a lesson in ichigo 100% dat i have learned and it is:

    " when u really know dat u really like/loved someone, tell them as soon as possible cause u might end up regretting it... it doenst matter how compatible u are if u dont confess nothng will happen...."

    alot of people here are o-so very rude.... damn.... maybe u should try learning som "M-A-N-N-E-R-S" cause ur manners are terrible.... and im not just talking about u.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zikor21 View Post
    mind ur own business...ill believe...in wat i believe in.... dis are just comments nad i know dat i might be wrong but... dont assume dat u are right.... tsktsktsk
    If you don't assume your right then why argue? The point of arguing is to convince another that you are right.

    Seriously though, if the past two and a half pages of comments that clearly show points on why your opinions are clouded don't even phase you from possibly changing your mind then nothing will.

    And Kikilala I don't mean it harshly, but it's just that an argument that is focused on logic and psychology and fails to properly spell psychology isn't very convincing.

    Also, what I meant by that line is that there already is so much factual arguments that deride the opposing arguments. Why continue? It's like beating a dead horse.

    Edit: Zikor21, for your sake, learn not to double post.
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    the way u said this is like u act better than us bcoz u studied human nature and behaviour.... wel for me its sure sounds like dat.... yes i do have a gf and were doing quite welll.. u see theres a lesson in ichigo 100% dat i have learned and it is:

    " when u really know dat u really like/loved someone, tell them as soon as possible cause u might end up regretting it... it doenst matter how compatible u are if u dont confess nothng will happen...."

    alot of people here are o-so very rude.... damn.... maybe u should try learning som "M-A-N-N-E-R-S" cause ur manners are terrible.... and im not just talking about u.....
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    sorry if u feel that way, so u r a matured person, as what u say u are.
    The true is confession is not something to play with, like u say u have learn in ichigo that it is better to confess even if u didnt compatible. i guess after this, in suzuka, u will learn that it is best if u didnt rushly confess cos u will end up like honoka. yes u have a gf but seriously do u thing u can have her full heartedly just saying i love u everytime?

    it is a counter reflex. When u have a crush on someone that u like and u grab the other girl hand. yes it is not like i know what manaka is thinking, but the author is a human. kawashita mizuki wrote alot of manga. and have 4-5 translated by some group. Thats y i kinda know how her storyline. So what i want to say is the reflex behavior shown by manaka can be clasified in these term.

    And again sorry to Zikor, i am not a rude person but i guess u can say that i like to play with feelings. Eventhough it is just a manga. It still describe a human behaviour. In this world there are alot people that play with their feeling.

    So again i bid a very sorry if u feel that sensitive and i know that my word sometime a bit harsh even i was not suppose to. But really, what i try to say is

    ~a happy world is a world that is full of colour, the expresion is the one that make it bright or darker~

    p/s:i would greatly say sorry to anyone who misunderstood my post like zikor.

 

 
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