Tokyo U is already highly prestigeous in real life.
Originally Posted by keis
The significance of Ichigo 100% as a story was done once Nishino left for France and Manaka set off to work in construction in order to actively pursue his goals.
Originally Posted by keis
The events after the time jump are nothing more than fluff to please the readers. That fluff is better thought of as a sequel to qualm the “What happened afterward?” question that the general public was bound to ask if Kawashita didn’t include it.
Frankly, the story is better without that said fluff.
I wouldn’t mind it at all if Seo used a time jump in that format as long as he doesn’t insert meaningless drabble.
The already existing time jump is a whole other thing. It was right smack dab in the middle of where Yamato can grow as a character – completely unjustifiable considering the manga is from his point of view.
I didn’t understand, but I’m assuming your asking whether I think she still likes Yamato.
Originally Posted by 3955elits
As of right now I’m compelled to say no or at least fails to recognize that she does. Looking back to the arc with her dead sempai, Suzuka’s personality isn’t the type to directly approach Yamato with casual talk if she does realize she likes him. The haughty giggling on her noticing the resemblance of Yamato to their old coach is a sign she will realize it soon enough – with the help of Saki of course. Saki’s description is “the girl from Yamato’s past.” It's ironic that the "past" girl in this scenario is in reality Suzuka.
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that's what I mean.ohh my bad english.She's not the type to talk casually with someone she loves.or maybe there's something happen at america that change her.
personally i think this manga is too deliberately made and it doesn't seem as natural as say I''s(yeah well that's what i use to make comparisons since IMO it's one of the best one out there). See, in I''s we actually see the main character growing up from being indecisive to decisive. And while certain situations are a bit out of place, the course of event flows naturally where as in Suzuka, you have these time lapses and situations which weren't even sensible. Like Yui forcing her way onto akisuki..... i mean wth was that. personally i think the author deliberately used her to get in between akisuki and suzuka. This is evident by how she was instantly gotten rid of RIGHT AFTER suzuka departs......
and this entire revival of hanoka-chan was just dumb. I mean why can't akisuki realize that he doesn't love her, he just wants to be loved so bad that when he heard she got a boyfriend he suddenly felt jealous.
I beg to differ my good sir...Ichigo 100% had an ending that cannot be characterized as "shitty" because every single character ended up evolving thanks to Manaka Junpei and every single one of them ended up happy, and just to give my statement a little bit of credibility, let me list the reasons why they all ended up just fine
Originally Posted by projectz
1.Nishino-did not get forced into marriage, went to france to improve her culinary skills thanks to the inspiration of Junpei, and ended up with Junpei the man she loved
2.Toujou-she became a famous novelist due to Junpei's influence, and she is going to work with Junpei when he creates his movie based on the "notebook story" so she will not lose him forever.
3.Satsuki- I don't believe that she was loved less than Toujou and Nishino, but in my own opinion, Junpei had no fear of losing Satsuki like he did of Nishino due to the whole arranged wedding thing and her moving to France, and she did not offer anything towards Junpei's future, unlike Toujou with the script to his Oscar winning movie, so she could not possibly come out on top. Even though she ended up not being with Junpei and probably never will, she did not seem that upset about it during the reunion so it is safe to say that she got over Jupei to a certain extent and even though she still might love him, has realized the truth and has moved on.
4.Kozue-she only loved him because he was nice to her, and she started to recognize the guy witht he x on his forehead as a potential friend, which would then lead to a relationship.
The most controversial aspect of the Ichigo 100% ending would be the reunion between classmates and between Junpei and NIshino and i dont know why you called it shitty but im assuming its because Junpei ended up with Nishino, the girl who he feared to lose the most out of all of the girls, but it is because he ended up with Nishino is why the ending is one of the most moving endings there is. Now, I don't mean to say that there is no ending better than Ichigo 100%, but due to the evolution of the characters and the fact that Kawashita managed to make the lives of all the characters into happy ones, that is why i stick with my opinion.
NOW, this is a Suzuka forum, so i will stop with the Ichigo 100% and give my own predictions of the outcome of Suzuka. The ending could go any 1 of 6 ways.
1. The storyline takes a leap into the Ichigo 100% world and Yamato ends up fearing losing Honoka more than losing Suzuka and ends up chasing Honoka to the extent of rejecting Suzuka's confession. Probablity of this outcome-19.5%
2. Yamato realizes that the reason he failed to go out with Honoka, Yui, and in the future Saki is because of the thought of losing Suzuka if he starts dating another girl once again. He will confess his love to Suzuka, but due to certain underlying circumstances, i dont know what they will be but i can only guess that they will be a boyfriend in America, career, etc..., she cannot return his love and ends up rejecting him even though in her heart she truly loves him, come some time they are both professional track stars and both meet up by accident in a competition and agree to catch up(not a date but a reunion) and that's where the manga ends. Probability-40%
3.Somehow, somewhere, the underlying circumstances that i mentioned will be removed and the manga will end with both of them declaring their love to each other it ends with a 2 page panel of them kissing. Probability-30%
4.Either Yamato impregnates a girl, or Suzuka got pregnant in America as was earlier stated, and both of them decide to terminate their childs life via an abortion and they meet somewhere and declare their love and live happily ever after.Probability-.35%
5.Suzuka gets pregnant and the typical American leaves the girl and Yamato decides to take care of the child,marries Suzuka and during the pregnancy they discover ovarian cancer and they save her but she becomes infertile so Yamato will never have a child of his own except for the bastard childs that he ended up having with Yui, Honoka, and Saki. Probability-.1% Probablity of him never paying child support to the three I just mentioned-.05%
6.I am typing nonsense and I have no idea what the mangaka is going to do due to my lack of intelligence and due to fact that I have never written anything dramatic in my life. Probability-10%
Well, those are my 6 predictions and im sticking to them. I'm pretty sure im going to get a lot of yays and nays on my conclusions but I have just typed out an extremly long answer to a guy saying a manga's ending was shitty so right now I could care less with whatever anyone else has to say but I'm sure by tomorrow I wont feel this way so feel free to rant and rave about this topic.
Last edited by undyingheroics; 11-18-2006 at 05:41 AM.
I don't know about #5 there, you might be on to something.
I don't think she got a boyfriend in America or hooked up with anyone, because I think she would be acting more awkward to Yamato because of the way he said goodbye to her before she got on the plane. That might have left a lasting impression, so might think she might be thinking he stilll likes her. Though the feeling might not be recipricated right now.
Out of your predictions right now though, I like #2 or #3 the best without the professional Track athletes. As far as I see, Yamato is only going to do Track through college, then maybe he gets invited to try out for the national team but looses horribly and decides to give up. Asahina maybe will make it, but I don't see Yamato.
I don't get the people who say that Ichigo 100%'s ending was shitty. Read the middle volumes over, the ones where Manaka is working at the theatre, and the ending will flat out hit you in the head. I reread it all the way through and I was surprised I didn't get the ending before Toujo's confession was rejected. It just seemed so obvious, well I'm rambling so whatever.
Last edited by metrobluejay; 11-18-2006 at 06:12 AM.
^^^ hmmm that's interesting, i read that not as a foreshadowing but more of a hint or possibility as to where the manga MAY head towards.
And maybe it was just me, I like to read everything in a row to see the consistent change in someone but for ichigo 100% it was on and off for a time of 1-2 years because of the scanlating so it was kind of confusing to see it at certain points to recall what the character build up was. So maybe it was me because the sudden twist in the end was kind of odd. Now i'm not saying the ending was bad, i'm just saying that the ending goes against our conventional thought of how the main girl the protagonist goes after is always on screen most of the time. This is sort of like how the guy in love hina goes after narusegawa. But for ichigo 100%, nishino was leaving and coming which gaved me the image that she was just a support character and the whole time toujo was right next to time.
As for the ending of Suzuka, the final stretch is most likely a contest between suzuka and saki, i have no doubt about that. honoka was kinda like one of those character that's for support. I was obvious early on that akisuki didn't love her and even when they were going out, he still thought about suzuka. AND I thought the reason was just really clear when he felt down about honoka getting a boyfriend. Yes he spent the year with her while suzuka was gone but he did it probably because he wanted someone to love him so he was just jealous that that honoka loved someone else. The author then throws another fast one at us and boom, introduction of a new girl and suzuka returns.
I don't think there was any girl in ichigo that got a whole lot more screen time than anyone else. That's because of the afformentioned summer or whenever Mananka worked at the theatre he walked with her pretty much every night.
If it even does, Suzuka better not go past college unless it has a jump affect that tells what happens. But I have no clue where this is even going.
spoiler for next chapter
writen by hi no ken Jebus on animesuki forum
"Together" Yamato's attempt to go to the same school as asahina falls through. He decides on Touto, he goes with Saki to check out the school. Once there they run into Miyamoto who tells them Arima is coming to Touto as well. Anywho on their way home Saki says she's going to do her best when she goes back home because she'll be together with Yamato. Yamato on the other hand, is still thinking about what asahina said about them doing track together and why would she say that now.
Does anyone else find it strange that Yamato hasn't made any moves on Suzuka?
Anyways, it looks like another battle between two of Yamato's former girlfriends (or something like that). Do you think the Suzuka/Yamato relationship will get done before they go into college, because they're already looking at colleges and are in their final year.
this spoiler confuse me.
Originally Posted by xaturas
1st:Yamato's attempt to go to the same school as asahina falls through.how come it falls through?
2nd:Yamato on the other hand, is still thinking about what asahina said about them doing track together and why would she say that now.
why does kouji seo made a time lapse?yamato didn't change at all even after all of the money he spent on the temple.
btw thank you for the spoiler u've got.