It's pretty off-topic when a Suzuka vs. Ichigo 100% turns into Love Hina vs. Ichigo 100%.
Hardly. Mizuki Kawashita admitted she didn't have a sense of direction. True. It explains the noticeable jump from Toujo to Nishino after Jr. High in Ichigo 100%, but that doesn't take away from the incredible character development in Ichigo 100%. J.D. Salinger also admitted he had no direct plot when he wrote Catcher in the Rye, yet it is one of the most influential novels in the 20th century. Ichigo 100%, like Catcher in the Rye, relies on justified character development rather than a strong distinct plot. Ichigo 100% involves many different aspects of higher thinking. A good example is the symbolism and juxtaposition within the foil of Toujo and Nishino as the two archetypes of ideal women in Japan. I can't give such examples for LH which only adequately expressed the fact that college makes your life better (Pssh. I read that on the internet a while ago. And since it was on the internet it has to be true.) and showed methods on how to manage a harem (Which is common knowledge that could be used by anyone these days since harems of girls can now be bought and sold for affordable prices off e-bay.) Definitely higher thinking.Originally Posted by Freeter
Ichigo 100% lacks a strong distinct plot that exists throughout the story. (Suzuka has that same problem.) In that capacity LH does beat out Ichigo 100%, however it's not blatantly random as you imply. Ichigo 100% builds on its character development to create meaningful experiences for the characters which allow the story to continue and leads up to the 'rushed' ending, all using one distinct plot driver - Manaka's story-wide pursuit of a dream. It's a fact that it's rather weak and it doesn't help that the synopsis used in for the series is used only to real in fan service seekers. Due to me actually liking the ending, my opinion of it will be probably be nothing short of the equivalent of a half pound pile of horse turd to you. Nonetheless, Ichigo 100%'s ending included much deeper sentiments and more ambivalent meanings than the stereotypical happy ending that was Love Hina. If Kawashita really did not care about Ichigo 100%, I would think a semi-open ending ala Lilim Kiss would be used rather than an allegorical ending that turned off most of the fans.Originally Posted by Freeter
Despite all the crazy situations thrown at him, Manaka actually matures throughout the course of Ichigo 100%. Keitaro was such a shallow character that he could've been a total failure at the end and it still would've been plausible.Originally Posted by Freeter
Switching around the names and your statements still are valid. Hardly an argument for LH to be better than Ichigo 100%. Honestly you can interchange both characters and the difference wouldn't be that great. Manaka like Keitaro was a total failure. Both evolved. Unrealistically, but evolve they did. You acknowledge Keitaro yet undermine Manaka despite both being of the same mold. They both really are horrid male leads.
While character development does indicate story progression, they are still seperate categories. A character developing does not equate a plot. Love Hina has the better plot and plot drivers of the two by a close margin,but both stories stand in the lower ranking of that category as far as any manga goes. However when concerning character development, Ichigo 100% is clearly head and shoulders above Love hina in all aspects - realism, logic, depth, and unpredictibility. Heck, not many manga can stand even with the character development found in Ichigo 100%. Keitaro matures, yes. But it's rather bland and spontaneously unreal in comparison to the slow and staggered development of Manaka's excuse for a lead character. Bring in the development of Toujo, Satsuki and Nishino and Love Hina cannot fathom matching it in that department. Shinobu, Motoko, and Naru do develop but not to the extent of complexity of the females in Ichigo 100%. I would even argue that the most of the LH females are underdeveloped to an extent.
I agree with you that Misuzu's side story was a high point in Ichigo 100%, but it's still a side story that builds on the characters defined in the story. And unlike Love Hina, Ichigo 100% emphasizes supporting character development during its side stories rather than using it as a ploy to include more comedy. Love Hina is more of a 'forgettable comedy' than Ichigo 100%.Originally Posted by Freeter