Thread: Suzuka vs Ichigo 100%

Sukebe, I can't help but feel that your comment was directed at me. If it wasn't then forgive me for directly addressing your comment.

Originally Posted by sukebe

Artwork-wise Suzuka is at least 10x better

10x better? Hardly. I measured art quality in many different aspects. It's a fact that the character drawings of Suzuka are head and shoulders above Ichigo 100%, but the drawings of Ichigo 100% contain much more detail than Suzuka in terms of objects and other background paraphernalia, as well being more interesting to look at with the variations of angels and views that were used. Too many of Suzuka's panels were in views that were just too linear and straight-on. Most of the panels could be much better if Kouji Seo incorporated more obtuse angles. It's a quirk that hindered the high grade character drawings and the art quality as a whole. I'm probably one of the few that actually notice stuff like that, but grading artwork is mostly a matter of opinion anyway.

Originally Posted by sukebe

and character development is still in process, you cannot compare that when is still unfinished

As for the character development, yes you can compare the two. Suzuka's potential development vs. Ichigo 100%'s proven development. Sure Suzuka is still in the process. Sure Suzuka has more potential than Ichigo 100% ever had. But that doesn't mean anything if Suzuka doesn't pan out. I'll take the proven commodity at this date and time.

...Although I'm seriously predicting that chapter 119 or chapter 120 will greatly show the effects of the character development within Suzuka...

Originally Posted by sukebe

besides ichigo is more of a comedy while suzuka is more drama than anything..

Both Ichigo 100% and Suzuka started out as a Shounen comedy. Both then started to focus on the drama aspect. Unless Yuka, Megumi, and a certain girl bumping into a pole while talking are not considered comedy anymore, I can't agree with you that they are that far apart genre-wise as you imply.

let's just hope that Suzuka doens't end in the same disappointing way as ichigo 100%.

I wouldn't say that the ending to Ichigo 100% completely tarnished the whole series for me. Although this is just my opinion, I'm also in that majority that rather enjoyed the ending to it.

Everyone always says that Manaka ended up with the wrong girl. While I suppose that's correct in the sense that he didn't end up with the girl he shared the most similarities with, I wouldn't say he ended up with the wrong girl by any means.

I'm just speculating, and I've heard about the reader poll that allegdly decided on Tsukasa as the final choice, but maybe there was a possible message in the ending- that anyone can end up with anyone as long as they're willing to make it work.

Now...oh yeah Suzuka vs. Ichigo 100%. I'd have to say Suzuka, although I'm not discounting the latter by any means. Rather, I'm mostly basing my opinion on which invokes more emotional response. For me personally, Suzuka is the winner.

yeah..suzuka is in the lead..!
But who knows...'cause the serie is yet to finish..

Originally Posted by ghost305

let's just hope that Suzuka doens't end in the same disappointing way as ichigo 100%.

yeah, I'm hoping the same as well...........

Originally Posted by ghost305

let's just hope that Suzuka doens't end in the same disappointing way as ichigo 100%.

some people supported the end o_o

not me though >.>



anyone else noticed that Miki looked alot like Satsuki?

or that honoka acts kinda like toujou?

yeah, I noticed it too.

Also, Yamato acts a bit like Junpei: they both give their all for something they really want and both do almost the worst actions when it comes to women.

As said before: it's really hard to compare these 2 manga for me. For me, Ichigo 100% didn't become a drama in the end. The way I see it, it was a romantic comedy from the beginning to the end, while Suzuka only was a pure comedy for the first few volumes. After that, it took a very dramatic turn.

I also wasn't satisfied with the ending of Ichigo 100%. It wasn't only very rushed, Junpei also didn't choose the girl that I hoped he would choose

I think I would go for Suzuka at the moment though, because it's a more realistic story and I prefer romantic drama over romantic comedy.

Ichigo 100% is 100% better , that was not even close.

Suzuka is no match for I's , Love Hina, etc... Let alone Ichigo 100%.


Some ppl think Ichigo is not much realistic; actually each phase has its reallity though. I would say, every scene is possible, just they are put a bit serially...

For those who hasn't read Ichigo, I bet you'll find Ichigo 100% much more moved than Suzuka...


Edited:
well, Ichigo's ending is a bit unexpected; but it's better after all ...

Hmm. Just commenting on some past posts.

Originally Posted by wangchungz

I wouldn't say that the ending to Ichigo 100% completely tarnished the whole series for me. Although this is just my opinion, I'm also in that majority that rather enjoyed the ending to it.

Everyone always says that Manaka ended up with the wrong girl. While I suppose that's correct in the sense that he didn't end up with the girl he shared the most similarities with, I wouldn't say he ended up with the wrong girl by any means.

Amen. Although I would say those who enjoyed the ending are in the strict minority.

Originally Posted by Chillout1984

As said before: it's really hard to compare these 2 manga for me. For me, Ichigo 100% didn't become a drama in the end. The way I see it, it was a romantic comedy from the beginning to the end, while Suzuka only was a pure comedy for the first few volumes. After that, it took a very dramatic turn.

Obviously since the last 4 volumes are chock full of pure comedy. Satsuki and Mukai are so important to the drama of Ichigo 100% afterall, and Toujo and Nishino were just comic relief.

Originally Posted by VNS_None_

For those who hasn't read Ichigo, I bet you'll find Ichigo 100% much more moved than Suzuka...

Enjoyable? Yes. Moved? Debatable. It's fairly credible to assume that if they voted, then they have read both Ichigo 100% and Suzuka. It's a comparison poll after all.

Originally Posted by VNS_None_

Ichigo 100% is 100% better , that was not even close.

Suzuka is no match for I's , Love Hina, etc... Let alone Ichigo 100%.

[Checks the calendar]

Yup, your right it's opposite day.

Love Hina's story is so weak it puts William Hung to shame. Sure it was funny and a good read, but my suspension of disbelief was felt like Dick Cheney's hunting target practice after I finished that thing.

I"s is a classic in the genre. That's a fact. But it isn't as good as either Suzuka or Ichigo 100% in literary merit. It had good character development, but it had a noticeable amount of plot holes and some characters were underdeveloped and bland. I would consider it above average - the same tier I place Ichigo 100% and Suzuka in.

Ichigo 100% and Suzuka are by no means '100%' apart. Either you over hype the paper thin plot of Ichigo 100% or undervalue the realism and depth of Suzuka or just place an emphasis on the amount of fan service or it really is opposite day.

Originally Posted by VNS_None_

Some ppl think Ichigo is not much realistic; actually each phase has its reallity though. I would say, every scene is possible, just they are put a bit serially...

Being 'possible' and being 'realistic' are different things last time I checked. Just because it’s possible for me to go out with Jessica Alba doesn't mean it's likely. Ichigo 100% does not come to mind when mentioning realism. Love Hina and I"s also fall short in that category as well. Suzuka is two steps in front of those three in that department. For realism do check out Honey & Clover.

Originally Posted by VNS_None_

Edited:
well, Ichigo's ending is a bit unexpected; but it's better after all ...

Ichigo 100%'s ending is the most memorable aspect of the manga in its entirety. I compare it to a cell phone ringing in the middle of class. Unpredictable yet amusing. It's an overwhelming mixture of great character foils, symbols representing Japan's evolution in views and values, the ambiguousness of dreams and reality, the Hobson's choice of being unmotivative, among others. Hell, there's enough in there for me to write a decent length paper for Psychology. (Whoever said mangas are only for little kids is dead wrong.) If Ichigo 100% had a different ending it would be really hard for it to come close to an unfinished Suzuka in terms of overall quality. In my eyes at least.

Ichigo 100% and Suzuka are a lot closer than some of the posts in this thread imply.

Originally Posted by d.A.

Obviously since the last 4 volumes are chock full of pure comedy. Satsuki and Mukai are so important to the drama of Ichigo 100% afterall, and Toujo and Nishino were just comic relief.

Weird, Satsuki was one of the most humoristic characters in the manga. For me, there were only 2 characters that had a bit of a dramatic storyline: Toujou (especially in the last 2 to 3 volumes, where she had a bit of a problem with her feelings) and Yui.

Originally Posted by Chillout1984

As said before: it's really hard to compare these 2 manga for me. For me, Ichigo 100% didn't become a drama in the end. The way I see it, it was a romantic comedy from the beginning to the end, while Suzuka only was a pure comedy for the first few volumes. After that, it took a very dramatic turn.

Originally Posted by Chillout1984

Originally Posted by d.A.

Obviously since the last 4 volumes are chock full of pure comedy. Satsuki and Mukai are so important to the drama of Ichigo 100% afterall, and Toujo and Nishino were just comic relief.

Weird, Satsuki was one of the most humoristic characters in the manga. For me, there were only 2 characters that had a bit of a dramatic storyline: Toujou (especially in the last 2 to 3 volumes, where she had a bit of a problem with her feelings) and Yui.

Um, that was sarcasm. Toujo and Nishino are clearly the vehicles of drama in Ichigo 100%.

Edit: Added some stuff to make it more comprehensible.