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    thx townsocks!

    lmao hanai got pwned but now im rly wondering for which reason tenma is crying
    me english suxx0rs, so no compleintz plx

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    After all the romance going on, at least Harima still remain as the main badass XD

    Lately their facial expression is really confusing.Especially the way it is drawn.

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    Finally! Kobayashi delivers another great scene between Hanai and Harima. Reminds me of the "good" ol' days. It was much better than that ridiculous misunderstanding involving Harima, Yakumo, Hanai, and shit (No, seriously, why the fuck did Harima need Yakumo to help him take a dump?).

    Clearly, Tenma's crying has something to do with Karasuma. I'm trying to figure out why Kobayashi wouldn't simply show us what happened, but I've long since determined that making any attempts to understand this author are useless. The tears do remind me of Harima a few chapters ago (the parallel is likely intentional).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Finally! Kobayashi delivers another great scene between Hanai and Harima. Reminds me of the "good" ol' days. It was much better than that ridiculous misunderstanding involving Harima, Yakumo, Hanai, and shit (No, seriously, why the fuck did Harima need Yakumo to help him take a dump?).
    Since they were handcuffed together, Harima needed Yakumo's permission to do a rather distasteful bodily function so close to her. I thought it was somewhat clever, since needing to poop is a dilemma that arises naturally from being handcuffed together and any discussion about it could easily be taken the wrong way... it wasn't nearly as forced as the ridiculous Harima-applying-cream-to-Nakamura misunderstanding.
    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Clearly, Tenma's crying has something to do with Karasuma. I'm trying to figure out why Kobayashi wouldn't simply show us what happened, but I've long since determined that making any attempts to understand this author are useless. The tears do remind me of Harima a few chapters ago (the parallel is likely intentional).
    That's a good observation. They have the same forced smile, too. I guess that not showing the confession is a way of building suspense, and it also preserves Karasuma's image if he did reject Tenma. If Karasuma had rejected Tenma on panel, he would look cold.

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    In this chapter the scene are more lively and less serious compared to the previous few chapter. Harima don't seem to sad after being dumped by Tenma, he even happily fool around with Hanai...hmm, "happily" doesn't sound right. As usual, Yakumo is the only one that really understand the situation, and as usual, she herself is being misunderstood (stupid Hanai ). The next episode will conclude a few thing, the suspense is killing me

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoSapien View Post
    Since they were handcuffed together, Harima needed Yakumo's permission to do a rather distasteful bodily function so close to her. I thought it was somewhat clever, since needing to poop is a dilemma that arises naturally from being handcuffed together and any discussion about it could easily be taken the wrong way... it wasn't nearly as forced as the ridiculous Harima-applying-cream-to-Nakamura misunderstanding.
    Ah, I would have been more impressed if it was her Holiness, Yakumo, doing the dirty deed and the roles were reversed. But such characters do not have such bodily functions. That, and doesn't Eri's maid show up with the key for the handcuffs in the very next chapter, just in time to interrupt something? Correction: Seems it's four chapters later.

    You know, I think it's pretty hard to determine whether the Yakumo-crapper or the Nakamura-creamer is more forced. For Nakamura, we have Harima randomly getting appendicitis and Nakumura just so happening to be at the same hospital, at the same time. The probability of those two events happening at the same time are basically nil. But Yakumo and Harima being handcuffed (then Yakumo "helping him out") is the product of many absurd events: first, Harima decides to go to Angola, then Nakamura (again!) randomly decides to help Harima go to Angola, then there's a Tsukamoto misunderstanding overheard on a radio (which makes no sense since Yakumo was in absolutely no danger). And so on.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoSapien View Post
    That's a good observation. They have the same forced smile, too. I guess that not showing the confession is a way of building suspense, and it also preserves Karasuma's image if he did reject Tenma. If Karasuma had rejected Tenma on panel, he would look cold.
    It builds suspense, yes. Preserving Karasuma's image makes no sense (since his image is cold), and it's not necessary if Tenma is going to have a serious reaction. That is, assuming Karasuma did reject Tenma and he did act cold to her.

    Quote Originally Posted by M_green View Post
    Harima don't seem to sad after being dumped by Tenma
    Well, no, since he wasn't actually dumped by Tenma.
    Last edited by ultraness; 02-15-2008 at 01:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Well, no, since he wasn't actually dumped by Tenma.
    I got the feeling he was dumped when he said

    For every confession that is made... there is someone that is dumped...
    - Harima Kenji -
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    In being dumped, those affected by sorrow will not find kindness in this world - for there is none.
    - Harima Kenji -
    Well, he didn't really said it, it more like internal monologue.
    Plus, when the girls said he was dumped he didn't object them or defend himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Ah, I would have been more impressed if it was her Holiness, Yakumo, doing the dirty deed and the roles were reversed. But such characters do not have such bodily functions. That, and doesn't Eri's maid show up with the key for the handcuffs in the very next chapter, just in time to interrupt something? Correction: Seems it's four chapters later.
    Hanai inadvertently seeing Harima taking a dump is funny (on an elementary school level); Hanai inadvertently seeing Yakumo taking a dump would be perverse.
    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    You know, I think it's pretty hard to determine whether the Yakumo-crapper or the Nakamura-creamer is more forced. For Nakamura, we have Harima randomly getting appendicitis and Nakumura just so happening to be at the same hospital, at the same time. The probability of those two events happening at the same time are basically nil. But Yakumo and Harima being handcuffed (then Yakumo "helping him out") is the product of many absurd events: first, Harima decides to go to Angola, then Nakamura (again!) randomly decides to help Harima go to Angola, then there's a Tsukamoto misunderstanding overheard on a radio (which makes no sense since Yakumo was in absolutely no danger). And so on.
    The setup for the handcuffing was very forced, but once it happened, the rest proceeded fairly naturally. The hemorrhoid cream misunderstanding was totally forced from start to finish, as it required Nakamura to be wearing his Eri disguise and to collapse in pain at the right moment as well as Eri ordering Harima to do it and Tenma walking in at just the wrong moment to see it in the only way that would lead to a misunderstanding.

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    ^ Isn't Nakamura collapse due being kick by Eri? The pain happen after some long conversation between Eri and Harima, when Eri thought Nakamura cried because he was touched by the 'flag' romance problem instead of hemorrhoid pain.

 

 
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