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  1. #21
    Hitugaya taichou is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Wink Superb!!

    There's no need to say that, if the spoiler is telling us the truth, no matter what will happen before #244, but it certain will become a mark, as well as the scene itself, there's no need to say that, it's much probably Harima's first kiss, as well as Yakumo's, no mattering if it's accidental or not, it'll be certainly a divisor.

    I just hope the story has some serious development after that, with JK not stepping back and creating a situation between Harima and Yakumo/Eri that ends up in nothing more than a situation, instead of a decision.

    I expect, as a Onigiri faction supporter, that they will become a definitive couple, but, for me, what matters is that the story is promising from now on, with a stop on the non-sense fillers that came for a while...

    But it's definite that the kiss scene will be in at least one fourth of the wallpapers and fanarts in the future... I think we will have even two different versions, the one in the end of #244 and one in the start of #245 (if they do not put fillers), showing the last scene.

    Well, the fact is: SR is rulling!!
    Always waiting for your answers and opinions

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    mavnent is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Was not Harima's first kiss on Itoko? In chapter 170 both were made very upset about it.

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    They really kissed? In the 170, there was no indication of any ItokoxHarima kiss....


    ^Hehe yay photoshop

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    thebestanime is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    They didnt kiss, i think that you misunderstood the situation. You should read again 170 to see that im true.
    Well, anyway, allbody is waiting with high hopes the next chapter. Whatever happens there will decide at least part of the end (maybe), or maybe the next chapters too. Lets wait a good soul that puts the RAW in nyaatorrents or similar...
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    The scan does not look like a mouth kiss, is true. Neither face has tilted.

    Itoko kiss was suggested but not said.

    We must wait to learn more.

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    Weimario-kun is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Phew, is it hot or what? Let me move away from the flaring aura of the flag faction a bit, I sense some really strong saki(killing intent) *shudders .

    There, ehem. Well well well. After recovering from the shock of hearing about 'that' little accident I wonder which gate Harima will now pick. Will he go for the 'no' gate to save face and try like hell to dispel the misunderstanding or stick with his convictions and choose the yes gate where the misunderstanding will snowball. Ah what a predicament. Start bowing Harima. Or Tenma -oneesan will sic herself on you to protect Imouto-san.
    Funny how its 'accident' in these HarimaXImouto-san moments and 'fate' with HarimaXOjou moments, depends in which cloud you head is spining at I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun
    There, ehem. Well well well. After recovering from the shock of hearing about 'that' little accident I wonder which gate Harima will now pick. Will he go for the 'no' gate to save face and try like hell to dispel the misunderstanding or stick with his convictions and choose the yes gate where the misunderstanding will snowball.
    According to the spoiler, Harima was initially aiming for the "yes" gate because of Tenma, but then he suddenly realized that he was chained to Yakumo, so he decided to change direction towards the "no" gate. That's what caused the incident. Does that answer your question?

    The choice of gate probably won't make that much of a difference to the rest of the class, of course, after what just happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weimario-kun
    Funny how its 'accident' in these HarimaXImouto-san moments and 'fate' with HarimaXOjou moments, depends in which cloud you head is spining at I suppose.
    It's just the literal wording of the spoiler when translated, actually. There's no hidden meaning this time.

    Fate only enters the picture when you try to guess what the author is thinking. Anyone can attribute any of the "unintentional" moments in the series to fate - Harima's confession to Eri, the rumor that Harima was dating Yakumo, and so on.

    On that issue, the Flag standpoint generally tries to distinguish itself by breaking the symmetry between Eri and Yakumo. This is done by pointing out that while Yakumo influences Eri, Eri rarely influences Yakumo. So while Eri's situation with Harima have little impact on how Yakumo behaves, Yakumo's situation with Harima can act as a tool to create a crisis for Eri.

    That's the place where you see the two viewpoints diverge. A Riceballer looking at the Manga arc, for example, would try to only focus in on the interactions between Harima and Yakumo. A Flagger would consider Eri's reaction to the situation (which is shown side by side with the Riceball scenes) and point out the effect of the situation on Eri's changing feelings for Harima.

    I haven't seen very much of the reverse (ie. a Riceballer explaining how Flag's situation positively affects Yakumo's opinion of Harima) mainly because the Flag moments that we've seen rarely involve a third party, and partially because Yakumo hasn't been placed in a situation where she is at a disadvantage with respect to Eri. As a result, the point under contention usually boils down to whether or not Eri's reactions are important.

    For this particular situation, the Riceball stance seems to be to focus on the kiss and to de-emphasize Eri's reaction. The Flag stance seems to be to focus on Eri's reaction and de-emphasize the kiss. We'll only get an indication of which is more important in the next few chapters, of course.

    That's the basic line of reasoning behind Kyto1984's statements. If Eri's response is disregarded in favor of focusing on Harima and Yakumo, then the position feels much safer for Riceball. Similarly, if Eri confronts Harima and Yakumo directly, she won't be able to make any headway, either - another safe position for Riceball.

    However, if Eri enters into a state of despair and gives up, then the situation becomes more volatile. The reason is because it retains her status as a good person, while transforming the situation with Harima and Yakumo into a final crisis that needs to be resolved. In this scenario, the purpose of this incident would be to push Eri out of her comfort zone (which she settled into during the hospital chapter) and to a situation where she believes that she risks losing Harima from her life good (either to Angola, Yakumo, or some combination of both).

    The petrification suggests that the situation is favorable.

    There are plenty of other ways in which this can play out, of course, but they'll probably contain some elements from these scenarios. Unless KJ decides to suddenly do a chapter on Napoleon, of course.
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    WOW, im really surprise about your explanation (or kito1984, as you said). You (or he) really know the fellings of the onigiri and flag fans (because at first i was a flag fan and then i "converted" to Onigiri fan, so you can call me a traitor).

    For Onigiri fans, this is the chance that we were waiting for. An accidental kiss means a lot, even if it was accidental. If we have hope, and only if, Harima will start to feel something for Yakumo, and if Im correct with this judgment (hope that happens like Natsu no Arashi), he will fall in love with her. And i like to support on "ifs" sometimes (LOL, guess where this is taken from).

    For Flag fans, they (since i leave them, i dont say we) can find a positive thing in this moment. Eri can start to be more serious about confessing her love to Harima after this situation. Even if she was indirectally rejected, its not necesary for her to give up. She can try to show Harima more sides of her so he realizes her and get in love with her. So theres still light in that darkness created by the situation.

    Well, as i know, love is war, so we still are in the middle of the fight between Eri-Harima-Yakumo. Remember, dont be greedy and accept only one side. And remember too that there are more characters apart from them (Hanai, Imadori...), so dont wait for only one relationship.
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    Actually, I was using Kyto1984's posts with regards to Riceball as an example of what I've observed from the two factions. But I guess my wording was rather ambiguous.

    You should be able to write an effective case for either side if you want to be convincing. That's the only way that you can anticipate the objections that you're going to recieve from the other side of the fence.

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    The most possible reaction....
    Last edited by vekou; 10-04-2007 at 06:35 AM. Reason: from: http://www9.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=3587605&extra=&page=72

 

 
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