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    ratzuei is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Im 1oo% sure the catalyst will be Eri's father or arranged groom...
    and Im confident that the only person I can think of with enough courage to take on the "Americans.. British, Brittons I dunno", Eris Father and the fiance is Harima Kenji.
    And yes... this trully supports flag...
    theres a reason why the British or Americans are there in Japan.
    "someone please make this clear for me" .
    And I think there will be more developments and confrontations between the foreigners and Harima as the story develops...
    Well as the many developments in this story, this could become one of the many misunderstandings in which tenma is involved in some sort of way, like the kyoto or omiai arc. I really think that the only way harima would take interest in eri would be if hairma losses interest in tenma, which if it happens it would be an signal that the ending is near. This catalyst would only happen if this happens after harima loss of interest on tenmaif it happens.

    Also as when the ending will come the only thing that i know is that the turning point for this is karasuma's departure. As it would end the series or extend it for more(you know a 3rd year)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratzuei View Post
    Well as the many developments in this story, this could become one of the many misunderstandings in which tenma is involved in some sort of way, like the kyoto or omiai arc. I really think that the only way harima would take interest in eri would be if hairma losses interest in tenma, which if it happens it would be an signal that the ending is near. This catalyst would only happen if this happens after harima loss of interest on tenmaif it happens.

    Also as when the ending will come the only thing that i know is that the turning point for this is karasuma's departure. As it would end the series or extend it for more(you know a 3rd year)
    Or we could also have a scenario where:

    1)School trip to America but I sense there wont be enough time for this to happen.
    2)Karasuma mentioned something about finishing a manuscrip before he leaves, hes got so many days left.
    3)Harima has to choose between Tenma or Eri, yes in order for this to happen he must loose interest in Tenma.

    There was something weird I noticed though, and I stick to it no matter how much people hate it. Especially flag woes neener neeener.
    And dont call it Electra complex or whatever the heck is called, it gives me the impression that Yakumo is in love with her dad eww.
    I think the only think that may cut Harima's love for Tenma will be the fact that he looks like her father. "even though it was only mention very little".
    The most extreme case I could think of could be that Harima is yakumo and Tenmas long lost brother.
    Another case would be if she remembers the time she said "I dont know wether she said I love you or I like you when she passed out and was taken to Harimas bedroom waaaay back when he saw her the first time, and also remember his face. The face which looks like Tenmas father, good reason why she said I love you... BUT NOT IN AN INCESTUOUS WAY YOU SICKOS!!! thats the only thing I can think of...
    Im a flag fan and I guess I analize these things to my benefit but I will be more biased in case the story doesnt go as expected.

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    ratzuei : I think a catalyst is still needed to help diminished some portion of Harima's love toward Tenma. So he could find a new love instead clinging to Tenma. Hoping Harima to somehow losing interest by himself is not gonna happen IMHO.

    luisfcayo : I agree with the not liking to Electra complex. Hell, most of the girls willingly or unwillingly chooses the type of husband/boyfriend that resemble their father. But I thought Tenma said "i love u" when the first encounter with Harima to be that he is dreaming about Karasuma ? That's my impression. ^_^
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    luisfcayo is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratzuei View Post
    Well as the many developments in this story, this could become one of the many misunderstandings in which tenma is involved in some sort of way, like the kyoto or omiai arc. I really think that the only way harima would take interest in eri would be if hairma losses interest in tenma, which if it happens it would be an signal that the ending is near. This catalyst would only happen if this happens after harima loss of interest on tenmaif it happens.

    Also as when the ending will come the only thing that i know is that the turning point for this is karasuma's departure. As it would end the series or extend it for more(you know a 3rd year)
    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    ratzuei : I think a catalyst is still needed to help diminished some portion of Harima's love toward Tenma. So he could find a new love instead clinging to Tenma. Hoping Harima to somehow losing interest by himself is not gonna happen IMHO.

    luisfcayo : I agree with the not liking to Electra complex. Hell, most of the girls willingly or unwillingly chooses the type of husband/boyfriend that resemble their father. But I thought Tenma said "i love u" when the first encounter with Harima to be that he is dreaming about Karasuma ? That's my impression. ^_^
    even though I really wish it was Karasuma that would only prove the opinion that Karasuma was an alien, "which I dont think he is" and that he stole her memory by taking over her mind... or at least this would give anti-flag people a reason to prove their theory. Unless there was a deep hidden memory of Karasuma and the reason which is not yet told by the author why Tenma fell in love with Karasuma in the first place.

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    well liekiamhiung i also know that harima would need an catalyst to stop pursuing tenma, what i was refering its that luisfcayo catalyst could end the way of other arcs. The only catalyst that could stop harima going for tenma it would be that tenma somehow makes him understand that she is not for him.

    luisfcayo i also want to know the reason as why tenma loves karasuma, i think that is the turning point in which odou or true odou will prevail.

    Yeah and about harima resembling yakumo's and tenma's father it could be only a comparation in his personality, it would be a pretty stupid development in my opinion(you know one that appears in soap operas and such).

    Well if you're not aware im a odou fan, so i'm sorry if any comments made by me appear to be biased

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratzuei View Post
    well liekiamhiung i also know that harima would need an catalyst to stop pursuing tenma, what i was refering its that luisfcayo catalyst could end the way of other arcs. The only catalyst that could stop harima going for tenma it would be that tenma somehow makes him understand that she is not for him.

    luisfcayo i also want to know the reason as why tenma loves karasuma, i think that is the turning point in which odou or true odou will prevail.

    Yeah and about harima resembling yakumo's and tenma's father it could be only a comparation in his personality, it would be a pretty stupid development in my opinion(you know one that appears in soap operas and such).

    Well if you're not aware im a odou fan, so i'm sorry if any comments made by me appear to be biased
    actually I meant to become more conservative when it came to Odou or flag... also yeah we all have to wait to see why Tenma loves karasuma that is also a mistery to me.
    About the soap opera yes it could surprise a lot of people and for some people it might seem stupid but I noticed from other threads where the subject was touched that readers look at this posibility as very interesting...
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    actually I meant to become more conservative when it came to Odou or flag... also yeah we all have to wait to see why Tenma loves karasuma that is also a mistery to me.
    About the soap opera yes it could surprise a lot of people and for some people it might seem stupid but I noticed from other threads where the subject was touched that readers look at this posibility as very interesting...
    My reason as why this development would be stupid is simple, it would kill two factions(odou and onigiri) very easily but also this is the reason why many tought this development interesting(flag would obtain a complete victory whith this). The only way this could happen it would be that JK is desesperate to end the story.

    I know that onigiri is dead right now but who knows it might revive in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratzuei View Post
    My reason as why this development would be stupid is simple, it would kill two factions(odou and onigiri) very easily but also this is the reason why many tought this development interesting(flag would obtain a complete victory whith this).
    Well, no. Onigiri is long time dead (killed by Yakumo, the only person supposedly interested in it). Oudou won't be killed by Yakumo having Electra complex, since this doesn't concern neither Tenma, not Harima.

    I'm think it will be interesting simply because it is interesting itself, not because it supports my favourite faction, which I want to develop without help from outside.

    The only way this could happen it would be that JK is desesperate to end the story.
    He doesn't need this to end story quickly. If he wants to hurry up he can simply make Harima realise that Tenma fails to care about him and fall for Eri in 1-2 chapters.

    I know that onigiri is dead right now but who knows it might revive in the future.
    Looking at how it is dead for 80 chapter or so, I doubt that it will ever be revived. But KJ is KJ, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Looking at how it is dead for 80 chapter or so, I doubt that it will ever be revived. But KJ is KJ, who knows.
    Let's stick with "who knows".
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    ^ Thats what I did. It's up to KJ anyways.

 

 
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