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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Madoka for example
    LOL! you got me there
    okay........ Harima deserves someone better than Tenma ^^

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    I don't know what you have to Tenma - she is a great girl, cheerful, kind and funny. She is just stupid and clumsy, but Harima is pretty much the same....(at least he is clumsy when it comes to dealing with other people or keeping his emotions low).

    Eri doesn't need to end with anyone from class or need to end up with anyone in this manga, she just doesn't match to Harima - as she saw it herself, she has almost nothing in common with Harima (except aggressive character and that they hate shrimps).

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Vincent_ View Post
    *shakes ultra's hand vigorously* I completely agree with you!
    I always feel that Harima deserves anyone but Tenma. XD
    You shouldn't be shaking my hand so vigorously. I don't have anything against Oudou because it would frighten me; I'm against it because I like Flag a lot more. Oudou would be my second choice after Flag. The only pairings I'm dead set against are ones I find boring, like Glasses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman Kolox View Post
    I don't know what you have to Tenma - she is a great girl, cheerful, kind and funny.
    I'm guessing most people resent her because she poses a threat to Flag and Onigiri, and are magnifying her flaws to justify their hatred of her character.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman Kolox View Post
    She is just stupid and clumsy, but Harima is pretty much the same....(at least he is clumsy when it comes to dealing with other people or keeping his emotions low).
    Harima only acts clumsy around Tenma and Eri. He's pretty good at staying calm and collected around everyone else.

    Chapter 205 illustrates a problem I have with the "similarities" Harima has with Tenma: I have trouble telling which similarities are real, and which are artificial. Harima frequently tries to create things in common between them that don't actually exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman Kolox View Post
    Eri doesn't need to end with anyone from class or need to end up with anyone in this manga, she just doesn't match to Harima - as she saw it herself, she has almost nothing in common with Harima (except aggressive character and that they hate shrimps).
    After Eri assumed that she had nothing in common with Harima, she immediately finds out that they both don't like shrimp. I'm sure she would find they have more in common should she spend more time with him. It doesn't really matter to me if she finds she has more in common with Harima, though. I guess you wouldn't understand because you don't like Flag, but some of the appeal of Flag comes from the idea of the two being together despite apparently having little in common.

    Part of the reason they match up is because their differences in personalities complement each other. Harima is prone to delusions of fancy, and Eri knocks him back down to reality, as seen in Chapter 217; this is the strength Eri has that Yakumo does not, according to Yakumo in Chapter 216. Eri, on the other hand, has issues with her confidence, but Harima can motivate her into action, and so on.
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    Oh yess, the long discussion is back. Hey we the member of SR sub section has a reputation to keep guys.... So here goes nothing .....

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    I'm guessing most people resent her because she poses a threat to Flag and Onigiri, and are magnifying her flaws to justify their hatred of her character.
    Errr, some of the readers dislike Tenma's clumsiness anyways. Beside SHE is the one Harima likes. So see it like this Flag and Onigiri is a threat to Odou as well. And because Odou occured first, it would be more appropriate to say like this. This i said in consideration that Tenma is a threat to Flag and Onigiri because Harima like her not the vice versa

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Harima only acts clumsy around Tenma and Eri. He's pretty good at staying calm and collected around everyone else.
    Note that Harima acts clumsy around Eri mainly if it has something to do with the involvement of Tenma....

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Chapter 205 illustrates a problem I have with the "similarities" Harima has with Tenma: I have trouble telling which similarities are real, and which are artificial. Harima frequently tries to create things in common between them that don't actually exist.
    YESSSSS, this is the main cause why i dislike Odou. It seems that Harima is building an entirely "fake Harima" to attract Tenma. I don't like that. Not that i don't understand how he feel..

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    After Eri assumed that she had nothing in common with Harima, she immediately finds out that they both don't like shrimp. I'm sure she would find they have more in common should she spend more time with him. It doesn't really matter to me if she finds she has more in common with Harima, though. I guess you wouldn't understand because you don't like Flag, but some of the appeal of Flag comes from the idea of the two being together despite apparently having little in common.
    Part of the reason they match up is because their differences in personalities complement each other. Harima is prone to delusions of fancy, and Eri knocks him back down to reality, as seen in Chapter 217; this is the strength Eri has that Yakumo does not, according to Yakumo in Chapter 216. Eri, on the other hand, has issues with her confidence, but Harima can motivate her into action, and so on.
    I understand ur point, but like i has said prev. Eri didn't match Harima. Besides because of their different social status it will be a harder road a head of them. And personally i believe at this point Eri lacks the determination of love toward Harima that will make her able to withstand poverty :P.

    My endings would always included the fact of True Odou, Harima goes lonely is acceptable by me. Cause it is still High School, he got college and work life anyways.. So long as it is True odou...... Raised the Banner
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    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    Note that Harima acts clumsy around Eri mainly if it has something to do with the involvement of Tenma....
    Chapter 210 disagrees with this. Also, his behaviour towards Eri in Chapter 217 is totally messed up without Tenma having anything to do with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    I understand ur point, but like i has said prev. Eri didn't match Harima. Besides because of their different social status it will be a harder road a head of them.
    I’m not exactly sure how they don’t match. Just because they’re in different social classes? Because they don't always act exactly the same way? You know, basically everyone in the cast agrees that they match up, so there's got to be something there.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    And personally i believe at this point Eri lacks the determination of love toward Harima that will make her able to withstand poverty :P.
    Uh, they wouldn't be in poverty. It's not like Eri would lose all her money if she started going out with Harima. Also, do you really think Harima is going to stay poor? He's already got a job drawing manga.

    Another point, Eri says in one chapter that she wants to strike off on her own later in life, so I think she’d be able to withstand poverty better than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Chapter 210 disagrees with this. Also, his behaviour towards Eri in Chapter 217 is totally messed up without Tenma having anything to do with it.
    Wells, like i said mainly so not all. There is a few exception. Personally i think in the love hotel situation that is Harima's normal reaction toward anyother girls ( except for Tenma i think ). Besides if we added the chap.217 in the equation. It is because mainly he feel awkward toward knowing that Eri loved/liked him. So it is natural.. But it still to early to say that Eri caused Harima acts clumsy...

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    I’m not exactly sure how they don’t match. Just because they’re in different social classes? Because they don't always act exactly the same way? You know, basically everyone in the cast agrees that they match up, so there's got to be something there.
    . Well, let's just say that it is my perception while reading the stories. A good couple must have some common in them to succeed. Hehehehe. Well, i just see that the social status difference will be quite a big obstacle in their road. Like maybe Eri's parents will be unable to agree with their relation and some sort.

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Uh, they wouldn't be in poverty. It's not like Eri would lose all her money if she started going out with Harima. Also, do you really think Harima is going to stay poor? He's already got a job drawing manga.

    Another point, Eri says in one chapter that she wants to strike off on her own later in life, so I think she’d be able to withstand poverty better than you think.
    Hahaha, maybe i'm the one who is harsh here. Well, let's just say that Harima is poorer than Eri. So it will be hard for Eri to join Harima's life style. And don't u know that manga drawers is poor >.< .....
    And she only says that sentences. we ought to see wether she can stand it or not. Many people says things like that but when she/he was faced with it they can't face it so well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    Wells, like i said mainly so not all. There is a few exception. Personally i think in the love hotel situation that is Harima's normal reaction toward anyother girls ( except for Tenma i think ).
    The exception seems to be becoming the rule as the story goes along.

    As for the love hotel, and that being a normal reaction for Harima towards any other girl, remember the complete lack of awkwardness Harima felt when he was on top of Yakumo.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    Besides if we added the chap.217 in the equation. It is because mainly he feel awkward toward knowing that Eri loved/liked him. So it is natural.. But it still to early to say that Eri caused Harima acts clumsy...
    Why does the knowledge that Eri might love him make him so awkward? Why does Harima try so hard to perceive her as a villain? He looks like he’s trying too hard, in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    . Well, let's just say that it is my perception while reading the stories. A good couple must have some common in them to succeed.
    Similar tastes in food is good way to start. This is fiction, you know, so Kobayashi can just make up enough stuff for them to have in common as he goes along.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    Hehehehe. Well, i just see that the social status difference will be quite a big obstacle in their road. Like maybe Eri's parents will be unable to agree with their relation and some sort.
    This might be a problem in real life, but School Rumble is a story. In stories, obstacles tend to be overcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    Hahaha, maybe i'm the one who is harsh here. Well, let's just say that Harima is poorer than Eri. So it will be hard for Eri to join Harima's life style. And don't u know that manga drawers is poor >.< .....
    And she only says that sentences. we ought to see wether she can stand it or not. Many people says things like that but when she/he was faced with it they can't face it so well..
    Well, Eri doesn’t seem to be having any trouble integrating herself into the “lower-class” society at her part-time job in Chapter 154. Also, she is attending a poorer high school than she could be going to.

    Eri hasn’t been exhibiting any strong signs of a spoiled rich brat who can’t live without money, and actually shows signs of the opposite of what her archetype would be. I think you need to stop looking at her archetype and look at her actual character, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    The exception seems to be becoming the rule as the story goes along.
    Yes, if the story goes along the flag way it will be the rule. Besides, after the confession by Harima in the roof toward Eri, we still don't know how will KJ twist it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    As for the love hotel, and that being a normal reaction for Harima towards any other girl, remember the complete lack of awkwardness Harima felt when he was on top of Yakumo.
    Harima is a focus person. so at that moment, i think that because he is focusing on collecting material for his manga. He didn't think anything weird.

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Why does the knowledge that Eri might love him make him so awkward? Why does Harima try so hard to perceive her as a villain? He looks like he’s trying too hard, in my opinion.
    This is only my hypotesis so maybe it will be not so good. He feels awkward because :
    1. He didn't like Eri in the first place and he didn't want to hurt her feeling cause he knows the feeling of loving someone.
    2. Because of that reason 1 he is confused in how to react towards Eri feelings.
    Well, although i must said that there is hope for flag if he feels awkward rather than hating Eri....

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Similar tastes in food is good way to start. This is fiction, you know, so Kobayashi can just make up enough stuff for them to have in common as he goes along.
    This might be a problem in real life, but School Rumble is a story. In stories, obstacles tend to be overcome.
    Yes, i agree. My POV is based on past stories in SR and my own predicament. So, i don't really know how the stories will progressed. As such i can only say that if it going like this i still find that Eri didn't match Harima.

    Quote Originally Posted by ultraness View Post
    Well, Eri doesn’t seem to be having any trouble integrating herself into the “lower-class” society at her part-time job in Chapter 154. Also, she is attending a poorer high school than she could be going to.
    Eri hasn’t been exhibiting any strong signs of a spoiled rich brat who can’t live without money, and actually shows signs of the opposite of what her archetype would be. I think you need to stop looking at her archetype and look at her actual character, here.
    I happened to doubt her to live so smoothly in an environment lower then her economy. That's all. Even if he can integrated herself to the society,she still have that big house of her and maid and driver .
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    hmm about me i voted also for eri harima or yakumo or harima

    but well IMO when the ending comes to eri and harima dont you think SR will have a prolong and new twist on the story because seems like the financial status of harima and eri are kinda different so it might take the story to prolonged because theres a chance that eri parent wont approve and they would fight for their love on the way ^^ more power to SR

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    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    Harima is a focus person. so at that moment, i think that because he is focusing on collecting material for his manga. He didn't think anything weird.
    If Harima was in that situation with Eri or Tenma, do you really think he wouldn't have perceived it in a romantic light?

    I agree that Harima is good at focusing his attention on something so that he doesn't notice girls...so long as he isn't around Tenma or Eri.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    This is only my hypotesis so maybe it will be not so good. He feels awkward because :
    1. He didn't like Eri in the first place and he didn't want to hurt her feeling cause he knows the feeling of loving someone.
    2. Because of that reason 1 he is confused in how to react towards Eri feelings.
    Well, although i must said that there is hope for flag if he feels awkward rather than hating Eri....
    You weren't really supposed to answer those questions. I added that I think he's trying too hard to imply that Harima feels threatened because he feels his feelings for Tenma are in jeopardy whenever he's around her. A fear that he might like Eri more than Tenma.

    As for why I don't think your hypothesis is correct, compare how Harima reacts to Tae with his reaction to Eri. Harima doesn't really feel awkward around Tae, despite Tae making considerably more obvious advances on Harima than Eri.

    Quote Originally Posted by liekiamhiung View Post
    I happened to doubt her to live so smoothly in an environment lower then her economy. That's all. Even if he can integrated herself to the society,she still have that big house of her and maid and driver .
    Your doubts are rather unfounded. Besides, I really doubt that either would remain poor. Only unsuccessful mangaka stay poor, and I doubt Harima would be unsuccessful when he's managed to get a manga serialized at the age of seventeen. As for Eri, she's shown herself to be competent at most everything she does, and I'm sure that competence would transfer into whatever career she goes for.

    Quote Originally Posted by spynx View Post
    but well IMO when the ending comes to eri and harima dont you think SR will have a prolong and new twist on the story because seems like the financial status of harima and eri are kinda different so it might take the story to prolonged because theres a chance that eri parent wont approve and they would fight for their love on the way ^^ more power to SR
    The likely twist to the story in a Flag ending would be a role reversal for Eri and Harima, with Harima pursuing an apparently uninterested Eri. Chapter 217 has the beginnings of this sort of plot twist.
    Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

 

 
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