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    reinard-fox is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallingFurther
    In regards to her blushing, it could be perceived as a romantic emotion, and it could also be seen as the result of their senpai-kouhai relationship.
    Romance, here it is romance for sure. I can't remember her blushing when giving anything to Hanai, who is also her senpai.

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingFurther
    Now many are touting that the phrase is actually innuendo alluding to her intimate knowledge of Harima. It is important to take into consideration what they are talking about, which is what Harima likes. Keep in mind that Japanese is a very context based language. Both women are aware that Harima doesn't enjoy the taste of crustaceans, but Yakumo is not aware how sure Eri is in her knowledge. It is possible that Yakumo is continuing to cover for Harima's secret of hating shrimp, having been confused with Eri's statement thinking she was going to mention a food he liked.
    Ypu are right, Japanese is avery context based language. But we can't forget about Yakumo's character here as well, since she is the one who saying this. You variant is possible, however:
    - remebering Yakumo's always confused and unconfident behaviour towards Eri it is almost impossible to suppose that she will try to oppose her in such a matter. She needed to gather all her confidence and anger to say that senpai (!) (and a senpai who always bahaves showing that Yakumo actually irritates her) is wrong. And this is Yakumo, who can say such words only to people who are very close to her. Very. And Eri is not that close. At all.
    - paying attention to her looks (i know that i'm saying it at 1000 time, but since i believe this matter to be very important it just can't be helped) you'll see that she looked very confident at her words. And as Kolox mentioned: "notice the break in every word, in every bubble you have diffrent word" which meant that this phrase sounded very heavy, having an effect of a huge explosition. When she tried to clear Harima's reputation before she l;ooked complitely different, like she was appologising or it was her fault. But now she look calm and confident. Like never before. This means something complitely new is happening.

    And I agree with YuYo's points hear.

    Quote Originally Posted by YuYo
    And that is true and we have been discussing wether she was meaning hator the more agressive and emotional "You don't know him the way I do" or "You're not the only girl in his mind" I do belive that Yakumo knows about Harimas feelings towards Tenma, but lately we have seen her developing feelings of her own and this might just be her first serious move on him.
    I believe taht Yakumo is the third character who has seriously developed through series. And now she is ready for that first move and (as you said) did it. Basing on this i think that the meaning of this phrase os an offenceive one, sahe is saying that Eri is not ready to make Harima happy. While she, Yakumo, is.

    Quote Originally Posted by FallingFurther
    Look up the first page of the first b chapter, or page 140 if you bought the manga like me. You'll see the eyes drawn in a similar manner, and the emotion of that first page is not one of condescension.
    You meant this one:



    I think taht it is an expression of unhappyness. Not becouse she needs to do all the homework becouse her sister is complitely useless. It is because, as Ghost Girl says, there is no man by her side. And (thenk you for this point, FallingFurther, i can now compare the two exprssions) at last pic of her she is complitely different:



    Look. I'd like too hear to your comments if it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Romance, here it is romance for sure. I can't remember her blushing when giving anything to Hanai, who is also her senpai.
    I agree.We should also take into account the second last page where we see
    her dazing off while cooking.I don't think that she would put up that face if
    she were cooking for Hanai
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    When looking at the two pictures, there was something I noticed. Take a look at the eyebrows. In the first pic she is making breakfast for Tenma at 6am (had to look that one up). Here eyebrows are arched upwards, this is her relaxed, most common face.

    In the second one her brows are leveled, displaying a more stern state of emotions.

    Now look at this one:

    (taken from rikem's post on the first page)

    This is her pissed/angry face (because Eri marked tenma's face). Notice that her brows aren't scrunched together, like how Ichigo is through all of bleach. Even though she is upset, she still trys to express herself as little as possible. Another example of this is in b01, when Hanai insults Tenma, and Yakumo throws him to the ground. (too lazy to post the pic)

    Yakumo's facial expressions are very subtle, so any changes must be taken with a good deal of concideration. Going back to the "Harima-san loves shrimp" face, I think the cocked eye and lowered brows are a strong sign that Yakumo is infact challenging Eri.

    But the phrase itself "Harima-san loves shrimp" is very ambiguous, But it is also important to note what she doesn't say. Just where Yakumo's loyaties lie? If she was trying to protect Tenma, why not say "Harima-san loves Tenma." It might cause Eri to back off, finally realizing that she had been misunderstanding Harima. Yakumo and Eri both know that Harima doesn't like shrimp, it's so blatenly obvious that trying to protect that seceret would be futile. So if she didn't say it for Tenma or Harima, that only leaves herself. Putting all the pieces together, I believe that Yakumo is telling Eri that "I know Harima better then you do." Her motivation? It's still a little unclear, but it appears that Yakumo has an intrest in Harima romatically, but that is just my opinion.
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    I agree with eyebrow theory of yours.
    I wanted to add another detail: the whole facial expression, more precisely the impression that facial expression leaves if you understand what i'm talking about. It is alike in the first and third pic, though the emotions are diametrically different. The impression left by second picture is totally different. If i would try to explain what i feel there i can only say: it seems to me like Yakumo's soul is now calm. She know her goal, know what to do to achive it and know what to do if someone appeares on the way. The feeling left by first and second is uncertanty, unconfidence, like it is totally ynknown what to do, what to search for and how to search.

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    It's somehow funny - the girl with least of emotions is so easy to read : all of us see what kind of emotions are in this girl, although they are supressed by her everyday 'solid face'.

    I would like to see Yakumo smile, a big wide smile and a honest one too, oh - and with showing teeths too - and she should close her eyes and... man, it became a little awkward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    It's somehow funny - the girl with least of emotions is so easy to read : all of us see what kind of emotions are in this girl, although they are supressed by her everyday 'solid face'.
    I guess that by putting up a stoneface most of the time it becomes easier to
    spot the rare moments when that surface cracks

    And yeah.Her smile would be worth a while
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    After read chapter 205 and based on several facts from older chapters
    1. Yakumo loves her sister
    2. Harima loves Tenma, and wishes the best for her
    3. Yakumo notices and realizes Harima cares for her sister
    4. Therefore mixed feeling toward Harima (the only guy in world is immune to her psychic ability), from lastest chapters, we know yakumo definitely has feeling
    5. Eri likes Harima (loves)
    6. Eri sees Yakumo as rival because of misunderstanding
    7. Tenma is Eri's close friend, therefore she cant hate her
    8. Eri doesn't know Harima loves Tenma, because Tenma has feeling for Karasuma, and eri knows it
    9. Eri thinks Yakumo loves Harima, so she thinks Yakumo "tries" to do anything to get Harima (like herself)
    10. Eri thinks Harima loves her (because of complicated and coincedence events)

    So i think when Yakumo says 'Harima-san...loves....Shrimp', she actuall tries to tell Eri that Harima actually likes Tenma. The biggest reason for someone doing something he hates is he does it for someone he loves.
    hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahamut_zero
    So i think when Yakumo says 'Harima-san...loves....Shrimp', she actuall tries to tell Eri that Harima actually likes Tenma. The biggest reason for someone doing something he hates is he does it for someone he loves.
    Well, actually no. Can't agree. And i also can't think of any new arguments here, so we'll just wait and see what happens.

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    Right, because i've got a headache after reading all this. KJ sure know well how to make his fan confuse. @_@

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    let's rumble ! well not really. a little innocent question:

    Yakumo is good for lying ?



 

 
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