Onigiri: the comeback?

**Kolox** · 12-21-2006, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by ultraness

I just mentioned Yakumo’s biological clock not clicking yet as an exaggerated way of saying she’s not seriously looking for a boyfriend, yet. It was a joke, and it wasn’t meant to be taken too seriously.

Sorry man

, biological clock is biological clock - if you say that it isn't ticking, then you put Yakumo in very suspicious way - maybe she is a male.
(...and no one took it seriosuly, do you really believe in Were-cat Yakumo

..but when you think about it.. it's not so impossible)

But seriously, the whole "Ghost" thingy is (in my opinion) just telling Yakumo
"Get yourself a guy, God, you are so slow !! Get over yourself !!"
... of course in much more sophisticated and nicer way

Originally Posted by kniteowl

But if we assume that she's a werewolf... well werecat because she doesn't like dogs, when was she biten? could we assume it's a genetic family thing... and that tenma can bend spoons more easily during the fullmoon?

I think Iori and some other cat got his way (of bitting her of course

) when she didn't noticed. Maybe she was bitten when her biological clock started to click, tick and all that stuff. Or maybe she was bitten by Tenma, who had a vector for were-catness, and Tenma was.... born with it (just look at her, she obviously is an example of the girl who could pass you some kind of dieseas If she had bitten you).
Maybe Tenma is superior to Yakumo in powers ?? She us just hiding her true powers !! (or too stupid to notice ??)

**kniteowl** · 12-21-2006, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Kolox

I think Iori and some other cat got his way (of bitting her of course

) when she didn't noticed. Maybe she was bitten when her biological clock started to click, tick and all that stuff. Or maybe she was bitten by Tenma, who had a vector for were-catness, and Tenma was.... born with it (just look at her, she obviously is an example of the girl who could pass you some kind of dieseas If she had bitten you).
Maybe Tenma is superior to Yakumo in powers ?? She us just hiding her true powers !! (or too stupid to notice ??)

Iori and some other cat got their way by biting Yakumo huh? I wonder where??? LOL (Kidding) I Wasn't anything implying anything... DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT :P (kidding) although if Iori did bite Yakumo that means Yakumo and Iori Met before she got her powers, in the manga she already had her powers when she met Iori.

Tenma biting Yakumo??? I can't see that happening... Tenma and Iori Don't get along sometimes I'm not so sure if she's a werecat... Maybe it's a battle for domination to see who's who top dog... cat between tenma and Iori, Remember the chapter where Iori brought all his cat friends to party in tenma's room.

What about the time when Tenma and Iori switched bodies and Iori ended up spending the day with Harima, Did Tenma/Iori Bite him? Maybe the Disease doesn't affect males.

Personally I think it's her biological clock... it would just make more sense... if she were sexually active, and she could use her powers for whatever reason she believes in.

There's also the possibility that it's both except the werecat abilities strenghten her ESP even further then originally. She's good at gym right? Compared to her sister. (Except Ski-ing). Maybe her werecat abilities made her better physically also.

Although this is all speculation and assusmptions don't take them seriously LOL

**fifthtouch** · 12-22-2006, 03:00 AM

Just wanna ask a question... when did Tsukamoto sisters become one of characters in Van Helsing?

**rikem** · 12-22-2006, 03:30 AM

llllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllll l xD Hellsing doom XD

Since the reiko(/ghost girl) 's words, school rumble have passed so many alternative dimensions...

**Kolox** · 12-22-2006, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by fifthtouch

Just wanna ask a question... when did Tsukamoto sisters become one of characters in Van Helsing?

Because is more 'rumble' that way

And of course... Yakumo and Tenma duo is much better than the ones from the Van Hellsing movie

**reinard-fox** · 12-22-2006, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by ultraness

Yakumo will have to confront those sort of thoughts at some point one way or another, and I personally don’t think anyone is very good for Yakumo at this point in the series. I’m against people saying Harima is good for Yakumo because he doesn’t have dirty thoughts about her, since the reason he doesn’t have any is because he has zero romantic interest in her.

Of course she will confront them. And of course, if Harima will fall in love with her, he will have those thoughts. The thing is that Hanai and others think only in a one way to her. Harima will also think of her as a person with soul and heart, not only lower part of body. Thats the gerat difference i think.

The confirmation is necessary. It is obvious that she liked Harima before this chapter but she was denying that she liked him to everybody, including herself. Admitting that she likes him was a very big step.

Maybe, maybe. Though it is not necessary for me to see her admitting the obvious thing. Thpough it may really be important to the plot development.

I don’t know why you brought up Germany attacking the Soviet Union. World War II had began two years before then, and Germany wasn’t declaring war before they attacked any countries. Germany had invaded several countries near the USSR before then, and planned to take over the whole world eventually. It was inevitable that they’d go after the Soviet Union eventually.

I brought it up as a comparison, wasn't it obvious? In both cases (Eri's love and Germany attack) there was no need to confirm the fact that war began already since bettles have already started.

Eri had helped Harima before, but her intentions differ in the events, and they have a different context. It’s important to remember that Eri was the one who shaved in the first place and she had been feeling guilty about it, and had been trying to lighten the mood between them. Consequently, the impact of her sacrifice to get his hat is diminished because she’s basically making up for her previous mistake. The slate is clean between them by Chapter 85, and Eri’s sewing isn’t done to make up for any wrongdoings she’d done before; she does it to try and get closer to Harima. Eri had never done anything with the clear intention of getting closer to Harima before, so it is a turning point for her. As a matter of fact, the title of the chapter is called “The Turning Point.”

Wow, the power of title is used. I can't fight with that.

Harima’s feelings for Tenma are reinforced every time he tries to confess to her, as he commits himself further each time, but he’s essentially attempting the same thing each time and the end results have always been the same. His story and feelings would develop considerably more if he actually had success in confessing to her.

It is developing either way. Harima overcoming his fear, which grows before every confession, this developes his character which automatically develops Odou.

I think it’s necessary for Yakumo to clearly admit to herself that she likes Harima at some point to give Onigiri a stronger bearing. We don’t need to literally see it happening in a chapter for Yakumo to develop those feelings, but her chances of ever ending up with Harima will be incredibly slim if we don’t see it happening in the story.

*shrugs* We won't see this happening, her admition of her feelings. KJ will most likely keep her feelings a mystery only talking about them through her actions which always can be interpreted in several ways. Like in ch205 or 206. You will see in them wnat you want, i - what i want.

The Omiai arc is about Harima helping Eri, not Eri helping Harima. Harima helps Eri develop so that she’s more assertive in taking control of her future, and she’s able to reject her unwanted fiancé thanks to Harima. Hence, Eri acting nice to Harima in the chapter.
Harima doesn’t gain anything from Eri in the arc; he just gets drop-kicked, so it’s not surprising that he’s rude to Eri in the chapter.

She helped him greatly when said to Tenma that Harima is not a monkey type of guy - it happened right before the scene under the Christmas Tree occured. So my point makes sense now?
My point was not that he is just prejudice towards her, which is obvious, but that he is offensive even after she helped him greatly. This is what really is bad.

Harima thinks Eri is a nuisance before he saw the umbrella written on his desk, and she becomes a much bigger nuisance because he recognizes how whatever they do together can be viewed together from a romantic perspective, and that’s why he starts avoiding her more seriously after the incident. Harima seeing the umbrella raises Eri from being a mere nuisance to the bane of his existence, and he starts reacting much more emotionally to Eri after that.

Exactly, but this emotion is "What the fuck is that damn Ojou doing here?" not something romantic.

I brought up Harima noticing Eri as defenceless because it demonstrates he does start noticing Eri in a romantic context, even though he denies having interest in her. It’s the fact that he notices he could take advantage of Eri that’s important. For comparison, Harima has been in compromising positions with Yakumo before, but he never notices them from a romantic perspective because he never thinks of Yakumo in a romantic light. Harima’s tunnel vision makes him ignore women that aren’t Tenma in terms of romance, so it’s big that Eri cracked his tunnel vision enough for him to even consider taking advantage of her helplessness. Tenma and Eri are the only girls he’s looked at from a romantic viewpoint at this point of the series; Tenma positively, and Eri negatively.

I agree taht Eri breaking tunnels viewpoint is great step, but right after that she said "Harima is the worst" which broke the whole effect. This event ended with waht it has begun, though showed us the possiobility of breaking tunnel viewpoint in the future. But this possibility works not only for Eri, but for anyone as well. The thing that made a hole in a tunnels wall was Eri's nice behaviour, not the fact taht it was Eri herself. Same can work for other girls.

I brought up this example because I think it’s pretty solid evidence even from a non-biased view, and I find it strange that anyone could see that scene as completely devoid of romance from Harima’s part. It’s one of the few moments Harima thinks anything positive about Eri, and I think the chapter shows that Flag could work out. Most discussions I’ve seen on forums have agreed that the scene develops the Harima side of Flag.

Yes, it showed that Flag can work, but, as i just said, it leaves such a possibility not only for flag, but for other factions too.

Ther is a difference between "Oh, she can be a nice person too" and "Oh, how cute she is". If the second line was said i would agree about romance without discussion.

"She is defenceless now" is said because Harima is surprised taht now Eri looks weak which is rare, since most of time she seems like a string person, who doesn't show hers weakness often. Besides, this weak view was not only born from the blanket part, but from the whole arc - Eri gave up, she can't fight anymore - Harima sees it and he know that is definitely not like Sawachika to behave like that. So he is saying: "She is defenceless now".

To be honest, I’m not sure why you’re arguing so much against Flag and defending Onigiri since you say that you’re a Flagger. I’m curious as to why you like Flag in the first place.

I like Flag because i like blondies, nothing more. If i satred to defend Flag then this discussion would die, which will be dissapointing. Besides, some of your arguments are wrong so i'm trieing to show it. For teh sake of truth and pleasure, that is.

**Kolox** · 12-22-2006, 08:14 AM