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    Urameshi-sama is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Oh, I didn't realize that the foreign guys weren't part of the original team (like Hyotei putting the crap up front to leave the good ones for real matches). But that makes a lot more sense now...

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    We can't assume the original Nagoya guys were crap. They reached the semifinals afterall.

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    ^After beating who, Yamabuki? Where the only good person on that team is Sengoku.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravsieg View Post
    We can't assume the original Nagoya guys were crap. They reached the semifinals afterall.
    Um, they hired others to play for them...if that doesn't show crappiness, what does?

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    Yeah... It's like they didn't think they had a chance of winning with their own skills, so they hired people to play for them. Lol. I sure hope the foreign team collected their money already since they ended up losing.

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    So? It's not like Fudomine would easily defeat Yamabuki. In fact, they struggled to do so, even counting with Kamio's irrealistic win over Sengoku. We don't know how easily Nagoya beat them. Yamabuki got a win, but a motivated Sengoku would beat everyone on the series except for the Muga bunch so in no way it's a pointer of suckiness.
    You don't get enough evidence to judge Nagoya as crap (or rate Fudomine higher than them) from this.

    Damn you guys >.> leaning me against my own favorite team. xD j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravsieg View Post
    Yamabuki got a win, but a motivated Sengoku would beat everyone on the series except for the Muga bunch so in no way it's a pointer of suckiness.
    Sengoku wasn't/isn't that good even among the non-muga players. Even Momo, a middle to low class tennis player at the time of their match was better. And Sengoku was the best the team had. If you want a more recent comparison, Fuji would kick him without a sweat now and he's not from the Muga bunch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravsieg View Post
    You don't get enough evidence to judge Nagoya as crap (or rate Fudomine higher than them) from this.

    Damn you guys >.> leaning me against my own favorite team. xD j/k
    The fact that Nagoya hired people to play in their place shows that they themselves knew they were too crappy to even try to play.
    Is your favorite team Nagoya or Yamabuki? If its the latter, aren't they only better than Rokkaku and St. Rudolph's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post
    Sengoku wasn't/isn't that good even among the non-muga players. Even Momo, a middle to low class tennis player at the time of their match was better. And Sengoku was the best the team had. If you want a more recent comparison, Fuji would kick him without a sweat now and he's not from the Muga bunch.
    From what I could gather from watching the whole anime and reading most of the manga, Sengoku was supposed to be one of the best 2nd Year players the previous year. Most likely better than Fuji. But he stalled in progression because he just didn't care, and ended up losing to Momoshiro and Kamio who were without doubt much inferior in skills. In both matches he lost because he was either too careless or didn't really bother himself to find a way to overcome those two guy's weapons (Momo's jackknife and Kamio's tenacity). Overconfidence was also an issue. That's when he went out to find a way to motivate himself ahead of the nationals. Fuji would kick Kanto's Sengoku ass alright, but when it comes to the nationals one I don't think it'd be any easy.

    The fact that Nagoya hired people to play in their place shows that they themselves knew they were too crappy to even try to play.
    Is your favorite team Nagoya or Yamabuki? If its the latter, aren't they only better than Rokkaku and St. Rudolph's?
    To my eyes, it looks more like they wanted to win the nationals at all costs rather than meaning anything out of the original team. Sure, the foreigners are supposed to be stronger, but that does not imply the regulars are crap.
    And by the way, my favorite team as I have mentioned a number of times is Fudomine and my favorite player is Kamio. And yeah, I am actually debating against them so I ain't biased.

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    Sengoku...your explanation just seems like a spin of the story to me. He still doesn't hold a candle to anyone significant in my opinion.

    Nice to know your favorite team. I probably did hear you say that before but forgot.

    On Nagoya, its basically the whole cheating policy. If you cheat, it means you think you have a better chance of acing the test than using your own ability. Even resorting to that measure shows unconfidence in your own ability, even if it was motivated by the goal of winning.

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    Unfortunately, the policies in p0t are so bent to an exaggerated degree that it's like part of the plot already. I mean, if Nagoya did try to buy their way in the Nationals through the foreign players, that's a poor reflection on them. But in the match right now, Ryoma is being disguised as someone else and it's okay. (It's my understanding that he's in the line up and not a 'back up' -- I forget what it's actually called right now...). Isn't Seigaku technically cheating too, I wonder...

    And the hapless roles of the umpires and coaches is also another frustrating thing...

 

 
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