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    kawaiikitsune is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Uh.... I am not even going to read those long posts. =.= All I saw was that Fayte thought history was worthless. I think some history is interesting, but testing on history sucks. >.< History also happens to be my worst subject. *sigh* My only B....

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    I r da haet history. Kept me from having a nearly perfect record on middle school.

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    ^Yeah... I got a B+ in AP World History. >.< God.... And I ended up getting a 5 on the AP anyway....

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    What does 5 stand for? I'm not familiar with those marks. o.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urameshi-sama View Post

    Actually I was right. The original definition of Intelligence quotien = Mental age (calculated from #of questions correct on the test and its corresponding average mental age associated with that score)/chronological age (in months). The only difference since the creation of that IQ definition is the statistical adjusting of coefficients to a curve. Here's an easy source of backup.

    I didn't say there are different tests for different ages, just that you're mental age is calculated by your score performance and your IQ then relates that mental age with your chronological age.

    This calculation is the most sound and currently respected method of calculating IQ (its called the Stanford-Binet method), but there are many notable criticisms for this method of IQ calculating too that pretty much invalidate the tests. 2 major one:1)The tests are culturally biased, 2)The test tests a narrow focus of skills.

    And while Stanford-Binet is the most widely respected IQ test, there are many organizations that create their own IQ tests that are pretty much crap...thats why your IQ scores from a test from one company makes no sense in context of scores from another.
    Oh I'm sorry, I forgot this was still 1916 and still using the Binet-Simon intelligence scale.

    I never said taking philosophy is a waste of time.
    "I just took a college philosophy class this summer. It was fairly useless."

    And I had nothing but an open mind when I took the course because I hadn't had any pre-existing leanings or thoughts on the subjects covered in the class. You obviously don't know what you're talking about because philosophers pride their practice in the fact that philosophy doesn't have any clear-cut answers for any of the issues it covers and the lack of direct progressive value in the subject. And I'm not making my own judgments by saying that philosophy isn't meant to enlighten you. It opens up a more objective type of thought that really forces you to acknowledge how many different well reasoned viewpoints there are in addressing certain issues and how there really isn't one theory or school of thought that is superior to others. I can refer you to three essays by various philosophers and a lit book preface that backs me up on this, if you still think I'm being arrogant and ignorant. Though, personally, your comments on philosophy makes me think you're just talking about it from preconcieved misconceptions. This trend is one of the 1st things you learn about philosophy as a practice and is one of the few defining commonalities in philosophy, so your lack of understanding in this makes me think you really don't know what you're talking about.
    First of all, unlike you, I did have previous thoughts on every discussion I had in my philosophy class. I can show you essays I myself have written, proving other thoughts from other Philosophers (such as Descartes) wrong. I don't know what I'm talking about when I'm minoring in college for Philosophy. I don't know how your philosophy class was like, but mine was open discussion on various aspects of the world, every day. I have the ability to see flaws in anything, so I did not speak one time the entire course. I observed my class every day, and just write down where the flaws were. I'm not going to get into that. However something that you don't know is that Philosophy does more than you think it does, if taught the right way. I don't expect you to understand that since I did not explain to you what it does, added into your experience of Philosophy obviously being different than mine.


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    History is boring, especially when we learn the same stuff from 5-10th grade.

    I'm here for the pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Oh I'm sorry, I forgot this was still 1916 and still using the Binet-Simon intelligence scale.
    Yet it is still the most respected and most used scale today and the only difference now is that it is more computerized. Here's a loose brief FAQ covering the hallmarks of IQ test developments: http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spri...ory.htm#better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    "I just took a college philosophy class this summer. It was fairly useless."
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    Ok, I was too vague there. I meant it doesn't suggest or tend towards a certain ideology that will necessarily make you wiser. The only thing it does (which I mentioned in my last 2 posts) is require you to be a more objective logical thinker in considering the possibilities.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    First of all, unlike you, I did have previous thoughts on every discussion I had in my philosophy class. I can show you essays I myself have written, proving other thoughts from other Philosophers (such as Descartes) wrong. I don't know what I'm talking about when I'm minoring in college for Philosophy. I don't know how your philosophy class was like, but mine was open discussion on various aspects of the world, every day.
    My class was a mix of discussions considering the hypothetical questions raised by some phil texts and arguing for/against or changing it depending upon our own experiences. There was a lot of debate within it, but not enough in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    I'm not going to get into that. However something that you don't know is that Philosophy does more than you think it does, if taught the right way.
    What exactly is the right way (to you)? Personally, I take the ideal way to develop it as an evolving conversation on philosophical issues and considering and refuting the strongest rebuttals to the argument we adopt.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    I don't expect you to understand that since I did not explain to you what it does, added into your experience of Philosophy obviously being different than mine.
    Actually, could you explain what kind of value you do see from learning philosophy? I agree that our experiences of Philosophy differ, probably by a lot, but I have spoken to a few teachers who were philosophy majors/minors recently and they didn't really disagree when I was talking about the "value of philosophy".

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    Actually, can we move this discussion to PM? I want to continue this, but lets keep it out of the Tezuka/Sanada page.

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    SANADA PWNZORED TEZUKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

    That's all there is to it.

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    ^The truth.

    I'm here for the pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feez View Post
    History is boring, especially when we learn the same stuff from 5-10th grade.
    Yup. The only difference is that they make you memorize more stuff in the higher grades. It's really the same history.

 

 
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