Thread: Tezuka or Sanada?

^You know Konomi would never leave a truly bad ending for anyone from Seigaku.
Tezuka is going to end up re-rehabilitating his arm or switching arms (don't laugh).

Originally Posted by kawaiikitsune

I guess. Somehow Tezuka has to be okay. ;_; If he can never play tennis again, that would make me very depressed.

But if his not, you would have seen his last match, wouldn't that be awesome?

Originally Posted by azn3xdawgg

Both Atobe and Sanada consider Tezuka as their rival. Atobe had beaten Tezuka who at that time had an injured arm. Sanada, however, beat Tezuka when he was going all out, with every single technique, and his arm fully recovered.

Can I then assume that out of those 2 opponents, Sanada is the stronger one?

I don't know why people go by that to say that Sanada is stronger. using Tezuka as a standard even though he lost to both is idiotic.

actually even then, Atobe wasn't playing his best. wasn't he using a style that was not he's original tennis, and was merely a game to him. and by the end even though Sanada busted his legs or whatever Atobe was fine, meaning he didn't put in as much effort.

also you are talking about Atobe in the Kanto regional tournament and Sanada at the National, if that's the case, then why not use Ryoma as a standard. would you not agree that he put a lot more effort defeating Atobe-sama in the Nationals then he did for Sanada?

I'm not saying Atobe is better, but I don't agree Sanada is better either..
it really has no bases, Since in there last match Atobe would have won. Sanada being better then he is then, only means you can't be sure Atobe would win anymore, it doesn't mean he would lose either.

Originally Posted by Nekogal

But if his not, you would have seen his last match, wouldn't that be awesome?

No. Not at all. Never.

On the Atobe/Sanada thing, I agree with you. We just want to say that Sanada is better because of the way he beat Tezuka at his best and thats pretty impressive. Atobe was impressive when he came out, but Sanada's equivalence to Tezuka was much more apparent during their match (since Atobe and Tezuka didn't have a subsequent match after powerups). But, I still don't see a clear cut way Sanada can beat Ice World.

Are you guys being serious here? Neko is talking about 2 different time periods.

Kantou Atobe vs Kantou Gimp Tezuka (Atobe wins by a hair)
Kantou Sanada vs Kantou Atobe (Atobe loses 6-0)
Kantou Sanada vs Nationals Atobe (Unfinished, 4-0 Sanada leading)
Nationals Sanada vs Nationals Tezuka (Sanada wins)

In Kantou, the standings of the 3 were as follows:

1)Sanada
2)Atobe
3)Gimp Tezuka

In the Nationals, the ranking is as follows:

1)Sanada
2)Tezuka
3)Atobe

When Atobe played Tezuka, Tezuka only had his 2 trump cards:

-Tezuka Zone
-Zero-shiki drop shot

When Sanada played Tezuka, Tezuka had many trump cards.

-Fully healed arm
-Tezuka Zone
-Zero-Shiki drop shot
-SoSA
-PoGW
-PoHW
-Zero-Shiki serve
-Tezuka Phantom

Seriously, need I say more?

This is how I see the players and I think Im right:

1) Yukimura
2) Sanada
3) Tezuka
4) Atobe

Ryoma will beat Yukimura and be the best junior high player.

Originally Posted by Fayte

Are you guys being serious here? Neko is talking about 2 different time periods.

Kantou Atobe vs Kantou Gimp Tezuka (Atobe wins by a hair)
Kantou Sanada vs Kantou Atobe (Atobe loses 6-0)
Kantou Sanada vs Nationals Atobe (Unfinished, 4-0 Sanada leading)
Nationals Sanada vs Nationals Tezuka (Sanada wins)

In Kantou, the standings of the 3 were as follows:

1)Sanada
2)Atobe
3)Gimp Tezuka

In the Nationals, the ranking is as follows:

1)Sanada
2)Tezuka
3)Atobe

When Atobe played Tezuka, Tezuka only had his 2 trump cards:

-Tezuka Zone
-Zero-shiki drop shot

When Sanada played Tezuka, Tezuka had many trump cards.

-Fully healed arm
-Tezuka Zone
-Zero-Shiki drop shot
-SoSA
-PoGW
-PoHW
-Zero-Shiki serve
-Tezuka Phantom

Seriously, need I say more?

I am being serious. but I won't repeat myself. I already said it in my post. if your gonna compare them 2, then look at Ryoma too.
also consider how far they went in the match and how serious they were playing.

Kantou Sanada vs Nationals Atobe (Unfinished, 4-0 Sanada leading)

this counts as Atobe's win.

throughout the whole match Atobe was only playing to complete his move. once he did Sanada couldn't beat it,
the match was cowardly stopped because he wouldn't win.

You can say Sanada was leading but the truth is that doesn't matter one bit if he was gonna lose anyway. he was just saved the humiliation which was basically running away on Rikkai's side and is pretty shame-full and weak.

like I said. I'm not saying Anyone is better. unless we hear them say it, or even Konoami mention it anywhere, we don't know who's better

P.S. sorry for the double post earlier, I didn't realise it was the same thread ^^;

Originally Posted by Nekogal

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this counts as Atobe's win.

throughout the whole match Atobe was only playing to complete his move. once he did Sanada couldn't beat it,
the match was cowardly stopped because he wouldn't win.

You can say Sanada was leading but the truth is that doesn't matter one bit if he was gonna lose anyway. he was just saved the humiliation which was basically running away on Rikkai's side and is pretty shame-full and weak.

like I said. I'm not saying Anyone is better. unless we hear them say it, or even Konoami mention it anywhere, we don't know who's better

P.S. sorry for the double post earlier, I didn't realise it was the same thread ^^;

Lol, no. Sanada could have easily used In and Rai right after Atobe used WoI to get that 1 point. Game over, 6-0.

Originally Posted by Fayte

Lol, no. Sanada could have easily used In and Rai right after Atobe used WoI to get that 1 point. Game over, 6-0.

then why was the match stopped so that Sanada doesn't lose?

WoI was defeated by Tezuka zone by the ball changing the course.
what other move would change the way the ball is heading?

Originally Posted by Nekogal

then why was the match stopped so that Sanada doesn't lose?

WoI was defeated by Tezuka zone by the ball changing the course.
what other move would change the way the ball is heading?

Atobe is your favorite character and you don't understand his techniques?

World of Ice is a technique that lets Atobe see the opponents weaknesses in physical form. Also known as "Insight v2.0". Atobe uses his insight (observation) to such a degree that he sees shards of ice in every spot which there is a weak point.

Now, Echizen overcame this using Nanjiroh-zone. However this is not the only way to defeat this technique. What Echizen did was divert the path of the ball that was already in progress. He did not prevent Atobe from seeing a weakness. Atobe still saw Echizen's weak points, only his attacks TO those weak points were ineffective, since they did not travel to that designated spot.

However Sanada is a different story. Sanada does not need a Tezuka-zone type technique to overcome World of Ice. His "Shadow" technique will stop Atobe from actually "Seeing" the shards of ice. (aka: his weak spots) Shadow allows Sanada to not be read. This means any form of "Insight" will be ineffective. This is why PoGW did not work against Sanada, because it is another form of Insight.

I hope this clears up any confusion.