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    NeoTrunksthe1 is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Default How Do You Beat Kabaji?????

    Tezuka would of lost to Kabji if it wasn't for the rain. If Tezuka can't beat Kabji who can??? I have a feeling that not even Atobe can beat him, thats why he manipulates/controls Kabaji to hide the fact that even he isn't as good as Kabaji. Kabaji has been underated up until this point. Could he be one of the Elite. Should he be #1 in Hyotei. Who can beat Kabaji if he can copy his opponents moves, plus perform them with more POWER.
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    There's more to tennis than just moves and power.

    Like every other doppleganger opponent, their weakness is that they can't adapt to new tactics nor do they have the ability to "evolve" which is implied to be so important in th series. This leaves Kabaji to be only as refined as the original, and unable to push the limits of another's technique. Kabaji doesn't belong in the elites, sure he has been underrated, but with your statement he easily becomes overrated.

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    Well said. Plus, Atobe surely is better than Kabaji. Even copying his moves, you can't copy personality/intelligence. So Atobe's World of Ice would still be functional, because it relays in insight. It is an inherent ability rather than a technique. And Kabaji probably has more than one blind spots.

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    If Kabji can mimic Pinnacle of Hard Word and Tezuka Zone, I don't think He'd have a problem duplicating World of Ice. But do you disagree, if it didn't start raining Tezuka was well on his way to losing, Who else has pushed Tezuka that hard when he's been at 100%.
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    I think Momo would be more suited to beat Kabaji with his tricky style, however Kabaji's rallying skills are up to par with tezuka's so it won't be easy.

    I'm sure a handful of players could beat kabaji but the score would be 7-6 since Kabaji isn't too bad.

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    Ooh, the Kabaji case. Once wondered about it myself. Still do, sort of.

    Thing is, I don't think Kabaji could copy the World of Ice. The World of Ice isn't a technique. At least, not to my knowledge. It seems to be an enhancement of his Insight. Making it a passive inner ability. Like Momo's Insight. Plus, he probably has a limit. Say, Gin Ishida. If he went against Gin, he'd probably break his arm after trying to return a few of them explosions. A physical limit, of sorts.

    Thing is, Prince of Tennis focuses on getting your own tennis style. That's the reason Ryoma can't be the best yet. Because he's copying the playing style of his Nanjiro. Because he keeps using his Muga to copy other people's playing styles.

    Kabaji's ability is like a Muga on steriods. Doesn't last long (only one match) but surpasses the basic Muga in copying techniques (like the Tezuka Zone and the Pinnacle of Hard Work). Thing is, though, because he can only use it for one match, he doesn't have much of a chance to get experience from it.

    I think Kabaji is somewhat like a blank page. As the match goes on, he models himself after the opponent, taking on their techniques. However, after he finishes that match, he resorts back to a blank page. Anything he copied, he loses. As proof, he doesn't use the techniques used in previous matches against Tezuka. Plus, it takes time to copy techniques based on their difficulty. He might have lost to Tezuka without copying the Pinnacle of Hard Work if Tezuka pushed harder.

    Also, even when he manages to copy a technique, he's against an opponent who's been using the technique for a long time. Take the example of Akiya and Fuji. Akiya copied the Higuma Otoshi and used it on Fuji, but Fuji managed to counter it because he knew its weakness. Or Ryoma against Atobe. Although Ryoma couldn't block Atobe's Tannhauser Serve but when he used it against Atobe, Atobe managed to block it.

    However, Kabaji has one freaking major weakness. He lacks something that the majority of players who played against him have. He is not a main character. He's not a Seigaku Tennis Club member. He's Hyotei. And unless he transfers to Seigaku, he'll always have that one handicap to pull him back. The most he can wish for is a long and held-out match in which he helps his opponent (a Seigaku student) realize his flaws that ends in either a draw or a loss.

    Most of it is based on speculation, and I'm pretty sure there are plenty of faulty things in my logic.

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    i thought kikumaru beat him in the anime.. well.. if i'm not mistaken anyway.. it's been a while since i've seen the anime..

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    O well, considering it is Kabaji and stuff, I agree to what some have said about the Atobe's insight thing, but then its only Atobe. How about the others? Definitely, Tezuka would have lost if it wasn't for the rain and stuff. Basically, what I think about Kabaji is the fact that he doesn't have any original techniques (just like Kakashi of Naruto) and moreover he doesn't have any hidden abilities (unlike Kakashi). But then being able to copy the Tezuka Zone in a just a few returns certainly is admirable. Moreover copying Tezuka's Muga.... Sheerly amazing. But then how can he not copy Atobe's Insight? What about in the anime when he copies Wakato's Change Over!!. Or how about the time when he copied Tezuka's Muga itself? Think about it. Isnt the change over thing part of whats in Wakato's mind (to those who don't know, wakato mimics the styles of different players like Ivanovich and Sampras)? Just think about it....

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    Kabaji can imitate other players moves, and with his strength can deliver them back with more power. Tough
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    Kakashi does have an original technique. The Raikiri/Chidori is his creation. (Is this what you meant with hidden abilities? Dont answer, we could get banned for going out of subject). Back on trail again, the change over technique is simply a well performed imitation. It still produces a physical response (IE change of play style), so it is copyable. And Muga is a physical response itself so a special character like Kabaji can induce the stimulation he needs to reach that state. The same but further goes for HJnK. And Kabaji is quite the player even without his mimic ability, probably what lets him recreate this array of techniques is that he has the same level of strenght, speed, technique, style than his opponents. Or a fit body apt and willing to copy all of them. Who could beat Kabaji? The characters that tend to evolve and improve in the middle of the game. Those who have an awful lot of experience with their moves. And of course, those who are lucky enough to get a rain in the middle of his wipeout.

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