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    metallerotaku is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Default Theory: Kegerou Zetsumi vs. Tezuka Zone

    Well, its just caught my attention but then the Tezuka Zone has actually never been deafeated and stuff. But then reading the manga shed to light one of the possibilities that could (and might actually WILL) defeat the Tezuka Zone. Basically, we all know that after Fuji's triple counters were beaten in the unofficial Tachibana match, he went and invented a fourth counter, known as the Kagerou Zetsumi or "Dragonfly Illusion". In my opinion, this is the key to the defeat of the Tezuka Zone. lets look at the facts:

    TEZUKA ZONE:
    An unorthodox technique where Tezuka seemingly controls the spin of the ball. Once hit towards the opponent, the topspin or the slice made will result in a ball that will curve in towards Tezuka's hitting range, all but without Tezuka moving. An elite techinique as once said in the manga.

    KAGEROU ZETSUMI
    The Dragonfly Illusion is a fourth counter made by Fuji Shuusuke and was one that was used in their match with Higa (I think). The principle of this technique is to nullify the spin of the ball and converting it into a sinker ball. A sinker ball is a ball which has no spin. But then it is hit in a special way by Fuji that it seemingly is a slow and floating ball but then in reality it is a fast ball.

    OVERALL VERDICT
    Since the Tezuka Zone utilizes the spin that the opponent places into the ball, then it blatantly means that it is defeated by the Kagerou Zetsumi. Because the spin is nullified, it means that the ball won't curve in towards Tezuka and he's have to exert more effort in getting the ball. Thus Fuji has a chance to defeat Tezuka (aside from his Ultimate Trump Card, the Zero Shiki)

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    So is the hypotheses agreeable? Please post your comments and your insight regarding this.

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    d.A. is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    The Zero Shiki was already defeated by causing Tezuka to lose enough stamina correct? Either way...

    It very well could be, although theoretically, Kevin's hit using solely the frame of his racket would be the ideal solution for the Tezuka Zone. rather than canceling the vortex-like spin Tezuka places on it, it counters it by adding a chaotic spin that no one can figure out on the already existing central Tezuka spin.

    The effect of the "Sinker" ball is wholly unrealistic though. Even flat power shots have a small amount of spin to help minimize the pressure drag. A ball with no spin would travel in a unpredictable and erratic path based on the air resistance in front of it -- much like a knuckle ball in baseball.

    It would also decrease the speed of the ball significantly as a whole since the air resistance is broken in different directions causing increased pressure drag from the uneven airflow separation rather than if the airflow is broken into one direction where it can accelerate from the rotation using aerofoil motion. Again like the knuckle ball pitch in baseball.

    But then again, the Tezuka Zone is completely fake as well. So...

    Based on the anime alone, I can't say I disagree with this thesis.

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    I remember Atobe seeing through the Tezuka Zone....Did I just make this up in my memory, cause I could've sworn I read that...

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    metallerotaku is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Hehehe... Nice one d.A.... But then from observing it all and stuff, there pretty much more possibility with Fuji successfully countering the Tezuka Zone with minimal effort rather than Kevin who hits hard with that illusion shot. Moreover, Icchan of Rokkaku would have the same effect on the Tezuka Zone but then without the effect.

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    what obento said awhile ago is true, basically the tezuka zone is done by applying a certain spin to the ball when hitting it to the opponent but atobe was able see the spin that was bieng applied by ryoma on the ball and therefore he was able to defeat it, although it was ryoma who was doing the technique, it still didnt change the fact that it was just like Nanjiroh's and Tezuka's technique.
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    I dont remember who actually said this but he/she has a point. Kagerou Zutsumi alone isn't capable of throughly beating Tezuka Zone. Kagerou Zutsumi is a special shot (Q. Counter) that nullifies all spin while creating a non moving ball illusion. It is very capable of beating TZ once, but since it is a move that is renewed with every shot Tezuka does, Fuji'd have to spam Kagerou Zutsumi to erase the move completely. Although Tezuka might not be able to return the illusion, he might as well counter it. Especially since he'd have so many opportunities to. In the anime, Fuji didn't need KZ (he didn't have it) to beat TZ. He used his "sharp shots" to do it. It only lasted for a game but whatever. Also I don't like to see the anime for facts because it tends to exaggerate A LOT. The Tezuka Zone's power was totally overrated in the anime: balls turning around in mid air, vaccum shots... . Anyways even if Tezuka gets to the ball but "exerts more to get it" that doesn't assure that he doesn't renew the technique or that he leaves Fuji an easy shot. Welcome to my PoT life.

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    ... plus, tezuka has SoSA

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    metallerotaku is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Yep exactly, that was one of my main points as well.... he has his Muga (SoSA as some might call it). Ok it is exaggerated and stuff but then its better to speculate in terms of the anime isn't it???

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    Default kagerou zutsumi

    I thought of this quite a while ago(months ago) and it can easily negate Tezuka zone but Tezuka can just put the spin on the ball again and return it with ease. If the captain of Shitenhouji can return it Tezuka probably can too since Tezuka is slightly stronger than him.

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    Sylent_Viper is offline Senior Member Regular
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    I dont think Muga would be much of a problem. Fuji fared well against a SoSA user (Kirihara). Plus, Tezuka doesn't use Muga. At all. If you mean HJnK, It has little/nothing to do with getting the illusion. Normal play, it could be Fuji's grave. In this particular case, not.

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