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    Sylent_Viper is offline Senior Member Regular
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    So he can modify the spin so it WONT get anulled?

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    no quite like that...

    but when he thinks that fuji its going to use kagerou he just can use zero shiki or muga

    in fact, he can make a LOB come back so...

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    Sylent_Viper is offline Senior Member Regular
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    But then he'd have to run for it. Shiraishi's main advantage that permit him return the illusion at the first attempt was the fact that he had Fuji's mental game running on his accord. Fuji was in shock because he hadn't scored not even once and his game was being read like an open book.

    Tezuka has never used Muga in his matches. If you mean the pinnacle of hard work, Chitose doesn't seem so strong (physicaly) and he's faring well against it. And you should have doubts whether if prediction is such a very important thing to accomplish TZ. That would make Chitose's seem like nothing because he has yet to fail to predict even one shot his opponents made. Tezuka doesn't have prophetical powers.

    Zero no Shiki is NOT an unreturnable move. And I thought we agreed on not using TZ facts from the anime? Or I could say that Fuji doesn't need Kagerou Zutsumi to counter TZ. A lob turning around in the air...? Yeah right.
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    about the lob... i mean that tzka can DO a lob and that lob after being hit by anybody will return to tezuka ( THAT is the first "Principle" of TZ)

    about chitose

    I belive that chitose KNOW how to break TZ... that why tezuka make an out...

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    if shirashi can return kagerou... why tezuka cant? AND if he can return it HE CAN START TZ again

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    Yeah. I agree with you that Tezuka can probably return Kagerou Zetsumi. Plus, even if Kagerou doesn't return to Tezuka, it'll probably still fall close to the middle of the court. Most of Fuji's counters are hit near the middle of the court.

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    I agree that Tezuka can probably return Kagerou, but that doesn't dispute the fact that Kagerou can probably defeat the Tezuka Zone as well. I think the more important part is the latter statement, because without the Tezuka Zone, Tezuka only only has hyakurin jitoku no kiwami and zero shiki, and hyakurin only amplifies power, so I can concieve Fuji finding a way to counter that as well. The only thing I can't see Fuji countering is Muga no Kyouichi in general, because I don;t see how he could counter all the shots seen by Tezuka.

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    Actually, the Hyakuren Jitoku no Kiwami is very useful against Fuji. It also doubles spin. Most of Fuji's counters rely on spin. Meaning, all Fuji's counters are going to be shot back at him with double the spin.

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    i dun see the appeal in prince of tennis though.. what makes it so interesting for u guys? =)

    i've a friend who's nuts about it, but he's really nuts abt tennis too.
    Doing the right thing at the wrong time = Mistake.

    Doing the wrong thing at the right time = Big mistake.

    Doing the wrong thing at the wrong time = Disaster.

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    What are you doing here if you don't like Prince of Tennis? Not that you're not welcome here, though. ^.^ It's just interesting to watch them play tennis. Plus, they have some funny things that they do. Lol. OVA 7.

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    Tezuka returning Fuji's counters with double the spin may not be such a good idea. In tennis an excess of spin: In topspin causes the ball to fall much faster. Meaning, Tezuka's ball hitting the net after a rush of stamina. In backspin, (some might say bouncing back but that's only if it goes high enough) the ball would stay where it was after it bounced (bounce upwards). SO that would pretty much annul the strenght/spin/speed multiplier. It's pretty much impossible that Tezuka could add TZ spin in that situation so Fuji's up for a finishing move. But HJnK isn't a random hit that doubles spin so Tezuka could hit it without the effects on rotation of the ball. And I agreed that Tezuka could return the illusion. And then some.

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