Thread: Hey, I'm hooked on this stuff, but need some help: what ep. is Fuji vs. Tachibana?

I'd say Chitose is above Tachibana.

Tachibana didn't aim for Chitose's weak side because Tachibana doesn't have the killer instinct. This is why Chitose is better than Tachibana.

If Tachibana acquired the killer instinct and went after Chitose's weak side, then he may win. But at the present time he doesn't have that instinct.

The results of the match show Chitose > Tachibana.

Originally Posted by Kuwabara

Tachibana is indeed above Chitose, since he would have won if he hadn't gone easy on Chitose the whole match.

But Shiraishi is above Chitose, so who is better between him and Tachibana can't be said at this moment. For what it's worth, I would guess Shiraishi is probably better than Tachibana, although it would be a really great match to see. Especially since we've never seen Tachibana at 100% since he was holding back a little against Chitose.

What makes you say that Shiraishi is better than Chitose?

Shiraishi is the Captain. And Tezuka did say Shiraishi was better.

Originally Posted by Shanghai Kid

I'd say Chitose is above Tachibana.

Tachibana didn't aim for Chitose's weak side because Tachibana doesn't have the killer instinct. This is why Chitose is better than Tachibana.

If Tachibana acquired the killer instinct and went after Chitose's weak side, then he may win. But at the present time he doesn't have that instinct.

The results of the match show Chitose > Tachibana.

It wasn't because he lacked killer instinct. It was because he was feeling guilt for what he did to Chitose in the past. Tachibana does have killer instinct.

In fact, it shows just how great he was, that Chitose didn't realize he was going easy until the last point of the match.

Originally Posted by Kuwabara

Shiraishi is the Captain. And Tezuka did say Shiraishi was better.

I think Tezuka said that chitose was better but shiraishi was "scarier" or something to that effect. I think the conversation was mirrored when Chitose said that tezuka was better but fuji is "scarier". My memory is a bit fuzzy.

It wasn't because he lacked killer instinct. It was because he was feeling guilt for what he did to Chitose in the past. Tachibana does have killer instinct.

Whether or not it was due to lack of killer instinct, or a feeling of guilty, either way it shows that Tachibana has a weakness when facing Chitose. He refuses to aim at Chitose' weak side.

Atobe didn't have this problem when he played against Tezuka. If Atobe didn't spot Tezuka's weakness and exploited it, Atobe probably would have lost the match.

In fact, it shows just how great he was, that Chitose didn't realize he was going easy until the last point of the match.

Playing with honor doesn't go hand in hand with Playing smart. Tachibana's guilt caused him to lose the match. I think he has to overcome his guilt and attack Chitose's weak spots in order to win.

I just checked, and Tezuka said that Shiraishi is 'the more formidable opponent'. So yeah, Shiraishi is better than Chitose.

And you have a point, just looking at Tachibana vs Chitose. But against a neutral opponent, Tachibana would do better. He's the superior player, he just has a mental weakness against Chitose.

Although to some people Tachibana not targeting Chitose's blind spot was a weakness, I respect Tachibana more for it. He feels guilty because he was the cause of it. Playing tennis shouldn't just be about winning. I wouldn't feel right if I won because I exploited someone's weakness that I caused. I think Tachibana would have been too nice if the injury wasn't caused by him. Since he caused the injury, it was nice of him not to target it. Plus, Chitose was his good friend. Exploiting your friend's weakness in general isn't a satisfying way to win.

Originally Posted by Kuwabara

I just checked, and Tezuka said that Shiraishi is 'the more formidable opponent'. So yeah, Shiraishi is better than Chitose.

And you have a point, just looking at Tachibana vs Chitose. But against a neutral opponent, Tachibana would do better. He's the superior player, he just has a mental weakness against Chitose.

What chapter? I wanna check the japanese out.

And also, I doubt it's a mental weakness. I think he was just trying to make a statement. It was his atonement. I bet if they ever played again, it would not turn out the same way.

Yeah. Just like Tachibana intentionally got hit by the ball. If he really was trying to win, why the heck did he do that? (rhetorical question) I'm not sure if Tachibana ever really wants to play Chitose seriously again, but if they do, it will be interesting. Tachibana shouldn't pull out his trump card on the last point....

Originally Posted by obento

What chapter? I wanna check the japanese out.

Chapter 320.

The japanese says something to this effect:

Tezuka: Sure Chitose and Tachibana are called the "national level" 2 wings of Kyuushuu, but if you were to ask who was scarier, it would be Shiraishi Kuranosuke.

In other words, it's basically what was said earlier about Fuji, only from Seigaku's side. I don't really think it means that he's better than Chitose, but more like how Fuji is a "scarier" opponent than Tezuka...(I don't really get why, but oh well...)