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    kawaiikitsune is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    It's not double power, but two arms forces you to keep the ball closer to your body. Although you sacrifice a little power by shortening the pendulum, you can easily make up for it by rotating your body more. Keeping the racket closer your body makes it easier to use your whole body swing the ball. If you're really powerful, then maybe it's better to use one hand. If you're strong enough, then you have the arm strength to generate the power to actually use the long pendulum. But unless you're strong, you usually sacrifice power using one hand.

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    I think I did a bell hit... I smaced a two-handed backhand after practice one day, and hit the wheel thing that you use to tighten the net, and it bounced in.

    Tell me if that is or isn't. I know it's illegal... or at least think that I'd lose a point hitting like that, but either way, I liked it. Best fact is that it went in like Tsuna Watari (right name?).
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    kawaiikitsune is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Yeah. I think that's it. It should be legal. I don't think there's any rule against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obento View Post
    It's not double power. Just because you're using two arms does not mean double power...
    ... essentially double power. it matters how you hit it. im saying that you CAN get double power from a 2-handed backhand, compared to a one-handed backhand. its more power no matter how you look at it

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    Chibi-Paty is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Sugoi! Everybody can play tennis! *_*

    Fayte-san, I'm your fan! You managed to do a super-difficult Marui's move! The Rikkai's tensai with the WTH moves! In... ping pong! xD
    Even if it was a fluke... sugoi desu nee! ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chibi-Paty View Post

    Fayte-san, I'm your fan! You managed to do a super-difficult Marui's move! The Rikkai's tensai with the WTH moves! In... ping pong! xD
    Even if it was a fluke... sugoi desu nee! ^^
    Glad to please a fan. *strikes a cool pose* hmmph.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aznrockdrummer View Post
    ... essentially double power. it matters how you hit it. im saying that you CAN get double power from a 2-handed backhand, compared to a one-handed backhand. its more power no matter how you look at it
    There is no way to get double power from a two handed backhand. Have you ever even done a two-handed backhand? The left hand is there to support the right hand in order to have more control.

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    its possible... but as i said you still get more power from the 2-handed backhand. and yes, i do use a two-handed backhand. also, i was playing ping-pong today and i hit the little post thing. and it bounced in. unfortunately, it was smashed in my face, so it was all useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Glad to please a fan. *strikes a cool pose* hmmph.
    Lol. I'm surprised Babii isn't impressed. She's obsessed with Marui.

    Quote Originally Posted by aznrockdrummer View Post
    its possible... but as i said you still get more power from the 2-handed backhand. and yes, i do use a two-handed backhand. also, i was playing ping-pong today and i hit the little post thing. and it bounced in. unfortunately, it was smashed in my face, so it was all useless
    Same here. I use a two handed backhand, too. ^.^

    Yeah.... That's a bummer that your awesome tensai shot got smashed back. If it was on a tennis court it probably would have been a winner. ^.^

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    I coach 10-13 year old kids at a local YMCA and I use both a one-handed backhand and a two-handed backhand depending on the shot. (I use a two-handed forehand sometimes too.)

    From a large amount of tennis experience, there's advantages and disadvantages for both, but assuming you have decent control of you non-dominant hand there isn't a big difference.

    Keep in mind that I'm a defensive technician player that wins by forcing my opponent to hit harder shots and ultimately win or lose based on making less mistakes than my opponent. If your the Gung-Ho type that wins and loses based on making the super hard and "super cool shot" then you can disregard most of the stuff I say. Just keep in mind that consistency counts more than flashiness in lower levels of tennis.

    One-handed:

    +: Better topspin, more room for error, greatly increased reach, low recovery time when on the run, your grip switches aren't obvious, easier passing shots, doesn't require you to set your feet, ideal for singles

    -: Requires a larger swing, requires you to be fairly good with your non-dominant hand, less power, less ability to control ball height, isn't very effective using a open stance (body parallel to the net), harder to learn

    The arm motion required for a one-handed backhand generates more natural spin on the ball than its two handed counterpart, the downside to that is that you lose control in your ability to control the wanted ball height. I use the one handed backhand for every defensive shot other than a lob which the two handed is better suited for.

    Against accurate singles players I'm usually forced to resort to this shot, mainly because it allows me to stay mobile and to set up for the next shot while allowing me to change from eastern grips to western grips to hammer grips with ease. Along with grip switching to be easy, your opponent also can't tell what grip you are using which helps in your ability to mask drop shots, lobs, and volleys.

    In all generality it's harder for beginners to hit a one-handed backhand but it's also the easier of the two to become adept with. Depending on your stance style the effectiveness of the one-hander can also change. I set myself in an closed stance (Body perpendicular to the net) before I hit the ball so one-handed backhands are my choice for passing and cross court shots.

    The more general of the two backhand styles, the one-handed backhand can work for any defensive shot and is better suited for the speedier player.

    Common mistakes I see people do it:

    Huge Swing -- The bigger the swing, the more likely you will miss-hit, I was taught to practice hitting it with a tennis ball under my arm to keep my swing from getting out of control. A huge swing also leads to you hitting the ball late.

    No Hip Movement -- All the power of a one-hander is generated by the swivel in your hips, not your arm. Using solely your arm will lead to no spin shots that have a high probability of going out. Bend your knees and use your hips.

    Spin Freak -- One-handers naturally generate spin if you correctly finish with your arm forward, don't go tilting the head of your racket to generate more spin (top or slice). If you want more spin, just increase your racket swing speed.

    Hitting Late -- Hit earlier than you think you have to, get ready even sooner than your dominant hand. Your body has to move more to your backhand side, even if you have a closed stance, and thus people underestimate the need to get ready early. Get ready early, and hit the ball while it's in front of you, not when it's right at your side.

    A good one-handed backhand has enough topspin on it to force your opponent to hitting the ball higher than he wants to due to the high bounce of a topspin. The sudden jolt of speed generated from the spin of the ball hitting the ground will also prevent your opponent from being able to accurately hit it on the rise.



    Two-handed:

    +: Flatter shots, a very quick compact swing, accurate down the line, heavier hits, usually translates to a more compact swing, less stress on your arm, much better ability to control ball height, effective in every stance, doesn't give away where you are hitting until last second, don't need to be good with non-dominant hand, ideal for doubles
    -: decreased reach no matter what, requires you to set your feet, requires ample body control, uses more strength than a one-hander, hassle to change grip stances, can't easily switch to a volley form, general decrease of spin in your shots, harder to master

    My personal choice for power shots -- I use the two-hander whenever I'm not forced to use the one hander. I first learned the two-hander, but was severely over matched in singles tennis due to me relying on defense.

    No matter how fast you are, the time it takes to set up a two hander comfortably prevents you from having as long of a reach as a one-hander. Two handers must learn that they will be forced to use a one hander in some circumstances. The other big disadvantage from using a two-hander is that it uses more energy just by setting the shot up; the two-hander requires you to have both your feet set and to lean and finish with your body weight off to one side, which can be draining in a long match.

    The two-hander is great for doubles, it allows you to easily pinpoint that corner shot half volley when they dink it back at you. The lower trajectory of the two hander also makes it better for down the line shots than it's counterpart.

    Better for attacking shots, the two-hander is more specialized then it's counterpart and could either be dominantly effective or hopelessly ineffective depending on the shot.


    Common mistakes I see people do:

    Not Bending Knees -- Usually the first problem people have, they don't bent their forward knee which forces the swing upward instead of forward. If your two-handed backhands are dinked upward or are consistently going out, then you are forgetting to do this or are not doing it enough.

    Failure to Lean -- Lean toward where you are hitting. If you are hitting a cross court shot learn toward the cross court, if your hitting a lob: lean back, down the line: forward. You lose the pendulum motion of the swing if you don't lean, as well as increasing the length of the actual swing which is the main advantage of a two-hander.

    Unfocused Eyes -- Keep your eye on the ball until you know you made contact with it. Eyes leaving the ball early and focusing on where to hit the ball to is the main reason for miss-hits and poor stokes with two-handed backhands.

    Bobbling Head -- Your body stability and balance is based in your earlobes, a moving head causes your body to lose its fluidity when hitting a two-handed backhand. Move your eyes and watch the ball, but don't move your head unless you absolutely have to.

    A good two-handed backhand has enough speed and velocity in it to force a defensive shot in return if it isn't an outright winner. The ability to control your body stability to hit this shot in various positions is directly responsible for how versatile it is. An effective two-handed backhand forces the opponents into plying defensively and allows you to come forward and attack the corners and net.
    Last edited by d.A.; 01-28-2007 at 12:27 AM.

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