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    Urameshi-sama is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsaznpride View Post
    Blindspot= X Ball course = ::::: Racquet = D

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    Yes, it's a wierd diagram... and it has nothing to do with what's being talked about... it's just a solution against the World of Ice... which is the stupidest special technique I've seen ever.
    But this assumes that Sanada only has one blindspot at a given time. I love Sanada, but I don't underestimate Atobe so much that I wouldn say he wouldn't have a close match with Sanada. I mean, he was at one point better than Sanada.

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    I don't know... I feel like Sanada could beat Atobe, now. He did beat the Nagoya singles 1.... 6-0, too. I've never quite understood how Atobe's World of Ice could even be effective... >.< So I guess I can't really make a good comparison.

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    well, all i can say is if i am sanada and my captain told me that atobe would have beaten me if the match went on, i would definitely take it as a challenge and start to practice like mad....>..<;; so, i would say he would definitely beat atobe of course i may be bias because i like sanada more than atobe...but oh well.

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    Oh well, by considering the plot we'll probably see Sanada come out on top now since Atobe's debut has already passed and we'll see Sanada in the next match. <sight> I just hope that we see either a Sanada v Tezuka or Fuji match next time. I know Fayte would have been on my ass for my last comment too...

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    Yeah. That's kinda what I said. The opponents have to get stronger or else the series would be boring. I still don't understand how Yukimura can say with confidence that Sanada would have lost to Atobe... >.<

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    About the World of Ice, the "freezing" part is for less than a second, I know the player can keep moving but people I don't think people are aware of their blind spots until the moment after they hit it. Like what happened with Sanada, he only noticed that Atobe hit the blind spot after it.

    Reigon, I see you say: "if you take Sanada's move he is nothing" well you could say that from everyone else, if you take Tezuka zone, Fuji's counters, World of Ice, Cool Drive, etc. Everyone's level would go down, whoever it is, except Shiraishi, he is the most realistic player around. I mean take Eiji's acrobatics and what do you have left a guy who can move fast from left to right and he has good synch with his partner. But everyone would own him( well they get owned everytime, but you know what I mean).

    I'm not a Sanada or Atobe fan, but I do recognize that if Sanada has those moves isn't because he was born with them, he discovered or saw them and then trained like a bastard to perfection them. Cheers.

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    What you said about blind spots are true, but how does Atobe know exactly where you are going to be? First of all, a person only has so many blind spots. Secondly, it's not like the ball appears in one spot. It still has to travel in a path. What are the chances that the entire path is in your blind spot? That's what I don't understand. The World of Ice shouldn't be able to work as effectively as Atobe made it. After a couple times, you would figure out exactly where your blind spot is (given you didn't already know). If you know where your blind spots are, you should be able to tell by the direction of the ball which one Atobe is aiming for.

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    Well I suppose it is the experience he has and his inner sight that makes him see the small movements that reflect where are you going next. About the blind spots, it is ever changing, I mean, I could be in one position and have three blind spots on my left side, but many on my right side or viceversa. And that is why you can't know where are your blind spots because they change with every movement.

    Also I don't know if you've played tennis but I do and sometimes there are some balls which I can't react at all, and believe I've tried to reach them, I fall everytime. What I think you aren't considering is that playing at that level of tennis, which is very superior in my opinion, just getting to one "easy" ball is tough so imagine you are hit with a nice fast ball at a point where you're reactions are much slower than usual, of course you can see the path but the speed of the ball wins your reactive skills thus calling it a blind spot.

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    But if Atobe can figure out your blind spots, you should be able to as well. Plus, you know your own body, so you should be able to know your blind spots relative to your body. If you don't move your head, but move your body, your blind spots don't change. Also, you blind spots rotate when you rotate your head as well. Therefore, it shouldn't be impossible to pinpoint your own blind spots.

    I've played tennis before... Just because a ball is out of your reach doesn't mean it's it to a blind spot. A blind spot means you didn't see it at all. I'm sure Atobe's shot is very fast, but I have never seen a shot fast enough to hide the path of the ball. Plus, if it were that fast, he wouldn't have to worry about pinpointing a blind spot. If it were that fast, hitting it over the net would already result in your opponent not being able to see it.

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    Unless you can know both all of your blind spots at any given time and can somehow block all of them at once (they wouldn't be blind spots then), then you really can't directly counter Ice World. Even Tezuka Zone was indirectly breaking the course of Ice World. So, Sanada's new move either allows him ultra speed to hit blind spots or eliminates Sanada's blind spots.

 

 
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