The only reason echizen won was because of the samurai image that made Sanada uneasy. Like I said, Echizen shows this when he is pushed passed his limit. (something Tezuka saw) I wonder why Atobe didn't see it?
Originally Posted by Reigon
1). Ryoma was in SOSA when playing against Sanada, so the only way he won was by copying his techniques, this shows how much Sanada has pushed him.
2). Ryoma was not in SOSA when playing against Atobe, so he won by his own skills and without copying the World of Ice, this clearly shows that Sanada is a greater opponent than Atobe, therefore if the two was to have a re-match (or finish the match) the result would be Sanada winning.
1) No Ryoma was in SOSA at the beginning (which didn't work very well), when he destroyed Fire and at the end for the Cool Drive/higher reaction speed.
Originally Posted by Babii-Boo
2)World of Ice can't be copied, because it's more like an ability than a technique. It's just Atobe's insight on a much higher level. And Ryoma was in SOSA at the beginning, it just didn't helped.
Sanada lost 6 games without putting up a fight (okay 3 good Lobs), while Atobe at least tried to win.
And about the Samurai image: I don't think it's about evolving, it's more about fighting with his whole heart in it. Atobe is a fair opponent, on the same level, while Sanada is an arrogant player, which strenght lies in his special technique and which must therefore be beaten into the ground.
And even if it would be about evolving, one can say that during the Sanada match Ryoma just evolved to the national level (surpassing Sanada), while he can't really evolve any further against Atobe who is on the same level as him.
So yes Sanada was stronger at the beginning of their match, but after it Ryoma had surpassed him (Sanada was the stepping stone for getting to the national level)
Sanada underestimated Ryoma... Kinda... he lost because he didn't use his all FuuRinKaZan techniques. And didn't use SoSA until the match was practically over. Ryoma improved during the match but he was never meant to win. One more Cool Drive and Sanada would have read trough the move and proceed with killing Ryoma in a blodied frenzy. Tragic but true.
Maybe (and Ryoma was meant to win), but Ryoma saved the Cool Drive for such a situation (plus he might only have one Cool Drive per match, he never used it twice and always at the end).
Originally Posted by Sylent_Viper
If the match would have been longer than Sanada might have won, thanks to Ryoma being very tired by being in SOSA for so long.
About the other two FuuRinKaZan techniques: He might have gotten one or even two points with them, but not nearly enough to win (plus if they would ever have a rematch all FuuRinKaZan techniques would be useless, so Sanada would have an even smaller chance to win)
If Sanada used all the FuuRinKaZan on Ryoma, Ryoma would have commited Suicide. Period.
oh your right: Sanada might have worked him to death thanks to exhaustion. Great Sanada's only hope to win is that his opponent loses consciousness.
Originally Posted by Fayte
If he uses all four than he just ensures that Ryoma (or any other SOSA player) can beat him. Even Sanada couldn't be so stupid.
Last edited by Reigon; 11-14-2006 at 02:52 PM.
Not really ryoma was able to do the tezuka zone because nanjiro use it against him almost all days and sanada probably hasn´t seen this technique many times
Originally Posted by LBM
Last edited by Shiraishi_Kuranosuke; 11-14-2006 at 03:39 PM.
If only you were correct. Each FuuRinKaZan is capable of countering eachother. For example, Wind is able to counter Fire. If Echizen copied all of them, they would be at a tie. It would turn into an endurance battle. And we all know who wins in that.
Originally Posted by Reigon
Yup... Ryoma... only cause he's the main character. Cause shit... if a freshman can beat the man Atobe Keigo (who is supposed to be a super pwner), then he'll knock Sanada out also.