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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Kid View Post
    I wouldn't say the team captains are necesarily the best on the team. I would say that the team captains have a leadership quality that the other team members respect and look up to.

    When Tezuka was sidelined, Oishi stepped up and was acting Captain. And I think we can all agree that Oishi was far from being the best on Seigaku at the time. Yamabuki is another example where Sengoku and Akutsu were better than Minami, but Minami was still the Captain.

    That being said, I do believe Chitose is better than Tachibana. Tachibana doesn't have the killer instinct to go after Chitose' weak side. That is definitely a weakness in Tachibana's play and thus Chitose won the game. If Tachibana learns to develop his killer instinct and learns to exploit his opponent's weaknesses, then he may win... but based on the results, Chitose is better at the present time.

    As far as Shiraishi and Chitose... they haven't showed them play each other yet so it is up in the air. I am leaning towards Chitose though.
    I didn't think I needed to explain the 1 team with a weaker captain. (The ones with Parenthesis are the people in the same skill level, and is undecided who is better.)

    Seigaku - Tezuka(Echizen)
    Fudoumine - Tachibana
    Rikkaidai - Yukimura(Sanada)
    Higa - Kite
    Shitenhouji - Shiraishi(Chitose)
    Hyotei - Atobe
    Rokkaku - Kentarou

    -As far as I see, the majority of the captains are also the best on the team.


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    well what about Kabaji? I'd think if Kabaji had a match with Atobe it'd be pretty unpredictable. I mean Tezuka was "saved by the rain" and all.

    Let's not forget Yamabuki. The captain is Kentarou Minami. Sengaku's better than him. And Akutsu (not Captain or Vice Captain) is better than Kentaro and Sengaku.

    And Rokuku? I think Saeki's better than Kentarou Aoi.

    and St. Rudolph? Akazawa? I think Fuji's brother or Mizaki are better than he is.

    So really, captain or no captain, it doesn't matter. They would like them to be strong. That's the only thing. Remember when Oishi was substitute captain? Would you consider him to be the second strongest in Seigaku?

    I'm pretty sure Chitose is better than Shiraishi. After all he has an opened Muga that he can use. And from the way things are going with the manga, anyone who can open their muga has the clear upper hand. I'd think "pinnacle of wisdom" can pretty much predict all of Shiraishi's moves (Bible tennis) I mean he plays everything by the book right? If he plays everything by the book Chitose will have one of the easiest times predicting Shiraishi's next move.


    Oh and this is for older questions in the thread:
    the disappearing serve isn't a counter. A counter has to be a counter against an opponent's ball in order to be... well.. a counter. It defends and counters any attack ball get it? Add lots of top spin to your ball? Counter with Tsubame Gaishi or Phoenix Return. Smash? Higuma Otoshi or Kirin Drop. Net volley? Hakugei or White Dragon. Since a serve isn't actually countering anything it shouldn't be considered to be one of the counters.

    To my understanding, Tsubame Gaishi and Phoenix Return are the same counter just upgraded. And so are the others.
    Therefore there are a total of 5 counters (The 3 listed above, Gate keeper move, and Kagerou Zutsumi [spin nullifier])
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderbread View Post
    well what about Kabaji? I'd think if Kabaji had a match with Atobe it'd be pretty unpredictable. I mean Tezuka was "saved by the rain" and all.

    Let's not forget Yamabuki. The captain is Kentarou Minami. Sengaku's better than him. And Akutsu (not Captain or Vice Captain) is better than Kentaro and Sengaku.

    And Rokuku? I think Saeki's better than Kentarou Aoi.

    and St. Rudolph? Akazawa? I think Fuji's brother or Mizaki are better than he is.

    So really, captain or no captain, it doesn't matter. They would like them to be strong. That's the only thing. Remember when Oishi was substitute captain? Would you consider him to be the second strongest in Seigaku?

    I'm pretty sure Chitose is better than Shiraishi. After all he has an opened Muga that he can use. And from the way things are going with the manga, anyone who can open their muga has the clear upper hand. I'd think "pinnacle of wisdom" can pretty much predict all of Shiraishi's moves (Bible tennis) I mean he plays everything by the book right? If he plays everything by the book Chitose will have one of the easiest times predicting Shiraishi's next move.

    Okay lets try this again, since you obviously didn't understand what I said.

    -I did not bother to mention St Rudolf, or Yamabuki, because they are both terrible teams.

    -Oishi is not the captain.(I did not say anything about vice captains)

    -And Kabaji is not better than Atobe. Atobe knows Kabaji more than anybody.


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    does it matter that they're terrible? And Saeki still seems to be the best from Rokkuku.

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    I guess the point I was trying to make was that the Captains aren't necesarily the best on the team (Yamabuki, St Rudolph, Rokaku, etc). But... all the captains have that leadership quality in them, and are someone that the rest of the team looks up to and respects.

    Senada was acting captain when Yukimura was sidelined... but it wasn't because he was the best on the team. It was because the other Rikkai members looked up to him. Just like when Oishi was acting captain when Tezuka was sidelined. It wasn't because of his skills as we all know he was far from the best on the team. It was because the other Seigaku members looked up to him.

    A team captain has to be able to rally the troops and instill a sense of confidence and morale into the team. It takes more then just tennis skills to achieve this.

    Shiraishi has that leadership quality in him. Kentarou seems a bit insane... but he is always obedient to Shiraishi. Shiraishi knew that the match against Seigaku would be their hardest to date, so he went first against Fuji and won in order to instill more confidence in his team.

    On the opposite end, Akutsu doesn't have the same quality in him. He is the best on Yamabuki, but he plays for himself rather than for the team. It would be tough for the team to rally behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Kid View Post
    Senada was acting captain when Yukimura was sidelined... but it wasn't because he was the best on the team. It was because the other Rikkai members looked up to him. Just like when Oishi was acting captain when Tezuka was sidelined. It wasn't because of his skills as we all know he was far from the best on the team. It was because the other Seigaku members looked up to him.
    Or because Sanada and Oishi are the vice captains. And skill-wise, Saeki is not better than Kentarou IMO. Kentarou has the most control over his shots than anybody on Rokkaku. Hitting cord balls at will? kthxbai.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Or because Sanada and Oishi are the vice captains. And skill-wise, Saeki is not better than Kentarou IMO. Kentarou has the most control over his shots than anybody on Rokkaku. Hitting cord balls at will? kthxbai.
    Agreed. They are vice-captains. But again it isn't because of their skill. It's because they have the ability to rally the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Kid View Post
    Agreed. They are vice-captains. But again it isn't because of their skill. It's because they have the ability to rally the team.
    Well, I think Sanada's skill does seem to put him in the vice-captain position. But I can't say for sure because Yukimura still can't be seen picking up a tennis racket. And I don't know if you can call what Sanada does rallying the team. He's a friggin Spartan!

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    It's not so much rallying the team than it is making sure they don't fuck up and lose their matches.

    I think Fayte's saying that... only at the schoolsl worth looking at... are the captains the best. Besides... I'd say you people only think Saeki's good because he decided to hit to corners against the Higa man. And besides... he said "a majority"... NOT ALL OF THEM.

    And no... Sanada was VC of Rikkai while Yukimura was out because he IS the second best. He'll kill anyone else, remember? That's why Echizen played against him. Echizen always plays the best guy no matter what (except against Rikkai and the doubles match... there were conditions existing in both of those).

    For the finals, I'll laugh if Oishi plays Akaya... just because.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsaznpride View Post
    For the finals, I'll laugh if Oishi plays Akaya... just because.
    I don't think it takes much to predict who will win..... Oishi's really not all that great. Kinda makes me wonder why he's the vice-captain.

 

 
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