View Poll Results: (Read post 1 first) Who's the #1 player?

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  • Syuusuke Fuji

    69 47.59%
  • Tezuka Kunimitsu

    76 52.41%
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    titanic1441992 is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    i love fuji very very much , and he 's the best!!! i am so sad that he lost in the match with shjirou..(i can' t remember his name)

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    krazykurapica is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    shiraishi. Get it rite, Gawsh!!!

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    xx-angellic_angel is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    FUJI!! haha he's so hot! XD But I think he's the best player as well ;D

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    rocklee33 is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Well I agree that tezuka is the better player but not by much. His second door sosa shouldnt b a problem since fuji has counters to take away all the spin. 2nd door sosa needs the tezuka zone in order to double the power and lessen the strain on the user (if i understood the explaination in the manga correctly). So i guess it will all come down to the two using basic tennis moves, and since tezuka is a more experienced player and stronger, its a close match to tezuka's win.

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    Babii-Boo is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    even though i voted for Fuji like some weeks ago, i want to change it now >.< i only finished watching the anime last time, this time i'm up to date with my manga, and Tezuka is just a legend that comes in every 10, no 20 years =] hahaha

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    Sylent_Viper is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babii-Boo View Post
    even though i voted for Fuji like some weeks ago, i want to change it now >.< i only finished watching the anime last time, this time i'm up to date with my manga, and Tezuka is just a legend that comes in every 10, no 20 years =] hahaha
    And Fuji isn't?

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    Sorry. double post. Server problems...

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    Hehehaha is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    OK, it's official. Whenever Konomi wants his top players to lose or come close to it, he makes them act stupid (I know this is late, but I haven't had the time to post in a while). Fuji had that match won. He could have easily used any of his improved counters to end the match right after Shiraishi got the first cord ball, but instead he kept using GKoH for virtually 3 games. It shouldn't have had anything to do with pride in that shot, since Fuji clearly emphasized that a win for the team was what mattered most to him.

    The same thing happened in Tezuka's match with Kabaji. Tezuka could have easily exploited Kabaji's extremely simple game to dominate the match without using HJnK. He even showed us how with his first point (when Kabaji returned Tezuka's drop with his own and Tezuka was ready at the net to slam the point in). Looking back, has Kabaji ever used anything other than the opponent's preceeding move (excluding his serves)? Tezuka could have kept using dropshots, down-the-lines or crosses (let's go with drop shots since we've seen it happen) and then positioned himself well to return the ball to a place Kabaji can't reach.

    In terms of Fuji's potential, I don't think we've seen all of it. Like I said, he lost that match because of that determination to see it out with the GKoH, not because he had reached his limit and Shiraishi was higher still.

    Now having said that, I still think that based on what we've seen in terms of apparent strength of both players, Tezuka would still win. If we break it down, it comes down to taking out the moves that are cancelled out by other moves, and looking at how the match would play out with with what's left.

    Kagerou Zutsumi would nullify Tezuka Zone. But you'd notice that Tezuka Zone is a continuous move which is renewed with every shot, so the only way that Fuji could effectively cancel it out would be by continuously using Kagerou Zutsumi, which would effectively nullify Fuji's other counters. The moment Fuji decides to use one of his other counters, he would not nullify the spin Tezuka added to his last shot, which would place it under the effect of Tezuka Zone.

    Moving on to the GKoH, I think it's agreed that Tezuka, with his better tennis sense and spin control, would be able to return it more easily than Shiraishi did to say the least. We could even factor in Tezuka Zone to give him an easier time. And of course, that's not counting HJnK, since there is no reason it wouldn't return the GKoH with double the effectiveness and efficiency.

    Given the above, I think the better course for Fuji would be to sacrifice his other counters to seal off Tezuka Zone with Kagerou Zutsumi. With Tezuka Zone active, Tezuka's be saving up his stamina, and Fuji's counters would close in on Tezuka. That would be very troublesome as a combination with HJnK would be sending Triple Counters x2 at Fuji.

    But even though we rarely get a chance to see it, Tezuka's footwork is of a very high caliber (think the first part of the Tezuka x Atobe match, the first point against Kabaji, the last point against Higa Chuu, etc). Even without his other moves, his tennis basics are very high level, as are Fuji's. I would have said Tezuka's basics are clearly better (based on Fuji's own comments and the storyline in general) had it not been for the 6th game of the Fuji-Shiraishi match. In that game Fuji was scoring points without using his counters against Shiraishi's "Perfect Tennis". Still, Tezuka's combination of genius plus experience plus hardwork (I've just reached the latest chapter of Eye-Shield 21, and his equivalent there would be Shin) gives him the edge in basics in my opinion.

    So in the end it boils down to no triple counters, and no Tezuka Zone. Both players are running around and hitting great shots to the corners. But the match would probably go to Tezuka, as he still has the Zero-Shiki and HJnK.

    Why do I say "probably"? Well, Fuji's unpredictability when he's pushed could put off Tezuka Zone even without Kagerou Zutsumi, which could give him the chance to use his counters freely. I believe this is what Chitose meant when he said that Fuji is more frightening. Against Tezuka, you know what you're up against (at least until he unleashes the next elite class move ^_^; ) and you can plan how you're going to play. So even if you lose, you relatively know how the match will go. But with Fuji, his play is much more variable, at that puts you off your rythm (come to think of it, I think Kamio would simply forfeit a match against Fuji half way through >_<; ). But now again, Tezuka is probably the one who knows Fuji the most, and with his tennis sense we've seen him use Tezuka Zone in some extreme situations, plus he has his own attacking repertoire (Zero-Shiki, HJnK), so I'd say the balance is still leaning in Tezuka's favor.

    To sum it all up, I'd that at this stage in the storyline, Tezuka is still depicted as the best player in Japanese junior tennis, and "the one closest to the pros". There is, however, space for Fuji to be shown as the better player in the future if Konomi wants to (even though he could just have whichever player act ridiculously whenever he wants to, anyway -_-; ).

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    Babii-Boo is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylent_Viper View Post
    And Fuji isn't?
    Erm you can say he is but that was my opinion get me? ^_^

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    Post#68: Well said.

 

 
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