Thread: Seigaku's Nº 1 (Read post 1 before voting)

Originally Posted by kawaiikitsune

As for Ryoma, I'm pretty sure he will be the best in the end just because he's the main character.

Thats pretty biased, to say that Ryoma will be the best "just" because he is the main character. I can say that Tezuka is extremely good "JUST" because he is the captain of Seigaku and he has to be super strong to be the captain of players like Fuji and Ryoma. You ignore the fact that Ryoma is extremely talented and has the most potential out of any of the POT players.

Ryoma will go on to be the best not just because he is the main character but because he evolves during every match. Fuji never showed his full potential until the match with Sharishi. Tezuka always comes out with something new not really evolving during the match, there are not many players who can make him go all out. That being said, Tezuka and Fuji do have their limits while Ryoma surpasses his limits all the time because that is a part of his play style and personality.

Look at how good Ryoma is without the Pinnacle of Hard work or Wisdom. I know some people didn't like the match between Ryoma and Atobe but thats because they dont like Ryoma. But that match truly showed what Ryoma was capable of without any of the doors to MUGA.

Oh well, people favoring certain characters over another is nothing new. It all comes down to who you like and that is who you most likey will favor.

well i had always think tha tezuka is the strongest in seigaku..but i don't really know because fuji seems very powerful and mysterious and also is ryoma in the middle...nee can't think now

Wow, we're currently at a stalemate with 50% tezuka and 50% fuji (61 votes each). Anyway, Tezuka has got to be Seigaku's no.1 after recent developments in the manga. Honestly, I don't see Fuji outdoing Tezuka anymore especially when Tezuka opened those 2 doors and when Fuji can't handle someone who didn't need any special techniques to win (as Shiraishi is a man who does not need any fancy moves to throw his enemies to the ground, not to mention a great player as well).

Ryoma will go on to be the best not just because he is the main character but because he evolves during every match.

Uhm, no. Ryoma continually evolves because he is the main character and Konomi wants his hero to have unlimited potential. You can't really separate the two. Yeah, he'll be the best in the end because of all the unleashed potential and all, but you must note that this plot turnout is because of the author's decision and not because Ryoma has a separate existence. So we instead ask, "Why will Ryoma be the best in the end?" Answer: Because he's the main character. (Note:I don't mean this to be a universal rule, but only because of our observation from past PoT chapters). That reasoning on evolution and unlimited potential simply answers the question how?

Originally Posted by Flamez11

Thats pretty biased, to say that Ryoma will be the best "just" because he is the main character. I can say that Tezuka is extremely good "JUST" because he is the captain of Seigaku and he has to be super strong to be the captain of players like Fuji and Ryoma. You ignore the fact that Ryoma is extremely talented and has the most potential out of any of the POT players.

Ryoma will go on to be the best not just because he is the main character but because he evolves during every match. Fuji never showed his full potential until the match with Sharishi. Tezuka always comes out with something new not really evolving during the match, there are not many players who can make him go all out. That being said, Tezuka and Fuji do have their limits while Ryoma surpasses his limits all the time because that is a part of his play style and personality.

Look at how good Ryoma is without the Pinnacle of Hard work or Wisdom. I know some people didn't like the match between Ryoma and Atobe but thats because they dont like Ryoma. But that match truly showed what Ryoma was capable of without any of the doors to MUGA.

Oh well, people favoring certain characters over another is nothing new. It all comes down to who you like and that is who you most likey will favor.

I still have issues with Ryoma beating Atobe, considering in just the previous matchup he was at 3rd singles struggling against Tanishi from Higa.

His opponent had the big bang and the movement special technique, and it was enough to push Ryoma to a narrow 7-6 victory. Granted I'll say it was a bad matchup since Ryoma shouldn't be playing against power players in the first place ( think Kabaji and Hyotei ).

But still, he went from winning 7-6 against a guy on Higa who isn't held that highly by his own teammates (Hirakoba: "I told you not to use that fat***), to winning 7-6 against Atobe who is seen as one of the stronger players on the jr high tennis scene.

It just seemed incredible that Ryoma would struggle against a player of Tanishi's caliber and then beat Atobe.

He struggled against Tanishi because of his size and power. If he was larger and more built like Taka-san he would've mopped the floor with Tanishi. It was a bad match to start off with. Taka-san should've face him.

Just because he had a tough match against Tanishi doesnt mean he cant beat Atobe.

Atobe had that "world of ice" which was pretty much useless against the "tezuka zone" which Ryoma gained in the match. After that Atobe found a counter spin to stop the zone and it became a match of stamina and who would hold out the longest. For Ryoma to win like that is perfectly fine, he plays his father like everyday and loses and he's had tough matches against kirihard, Sanada, Tanishi (all long drawn out matches). Therefore he has the experience to win a long match while Atobe is a type of player who would beat his opponents without much effort. The only tough matches he had was against sanada and tezuka.

Ryoma might have been acting cocky when he waited until the tiebreak to beat Tanishi. That's what it seemed like to me. Had he tried to return the Big Bang earlier, he very well may have been able to do it. However, he said he was going to get a return ace in the tiebreak, so maybe he just felt like he wanted to wait. Just a theory.

Originally Posted by kawaiikitsune

Do you mean "underestimating Fuji"? Because if that's the case, I don't think so. I think Fuji's been overestimated to say he could beat Tezuka. Fuji doesn't have anything over Tezuka. He has his counters, but those all use spin, meaning Tezuka could return it with the Hyakuren Jitoku no Kiwami.

That depends on how much is Konomi Takeshi willing to stretch the effects of Tezuka Zone. Fuji's original triple counters (Now improved) are hard to get. Theoretically they're easy to return, but that's not the way it works. (Like counter spinning TZ). If Tezuka zone can keep Hohou Gaeshi from sinking too fast, its retunable. If it's able to turn the Kirin Otoshi ball in mid air, it's returnable. And if it's able to make a ball from Hakuryuu curve its way back to Tezuka, it's definately returnable. Maybe Tezuka is able to return the counters at 2x everything. But I still think that won't be of much use, because of excess of spin and lack of strength from Fuji's shots. Also, in a way it's a win win situation, since Fuji's counters also gain strength the more spin the ball gets. I dont think that HJnK represents the ultimate death of Fuji's game. But still, TZ and two doors at once prove to be the best combination in the series. If Fuji broke TZ in the anime (Here I go again...) that means that Konomi Takeshi considers he has the skill to do it; in the end, he DID take part in the anime story line, although I hate it. But even breaking it, once again, who can beat 2x everything + prophetical skills?

Finally Tezuka's vote is more than Fuji's. 65 to 61. Yeah, banzai to all Tezuka fans. *CHEERS*

About Ryoma, surely as a main character, he is always to be zomehow surpassing his limits, but, the fact is that does Ryoma really have his limits? Yes, he is always practicing with a pro, ie his father everyday. That made Ryoma more experienced.

But the fact is that Ryoma is too cocky.

Yay!! ^.^ Like I said, the vote count is very reliant on who is playing at the moment. They get stronger during every match, so people tend to vote for whoever played last.

I've been thinking. I wonder if Ryoma has already seen the Pinnacle of Perfection since he's been playing against Nanjirou all this time. You would think that Nanjirou has at least showed it to him once.