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    wonderbread is offline Member Frequent Poster
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    Default Tezuka Zone

    I have a question:

    Why was Kabaji able to copy the Tezuka Zone?
    This is Tezuka Zone explanation: Tezuka predicts the next shot that the opponent will make so he will add a spin that will add to the opponent's spin when the opponent hits it and spin back towards Tezuka. He does it all with precise prediction.

    This is Kabaji's playstyle explanation: He's simple minded so he observes and grasps movements precisely and accurately.

    So? Tezuka Zone isn't one simple movement. It's the act of using one's mind to predict what the player is hitting next. And since Kabaji is simple minded I don't get how he would be able to use Tezuka Zone. (they explain this when Ryoma couldn't simply copy Tezuka Zone with his self-actualization; it's not a move you can just copy from movements)

    Also, two Tezuka Zones just don't make sense. Since Tezuka can predict where the opponent is hitting plus the amount of spin the opponent is going to add to the ball (thus Tezuka Zone) then it'd be easy for him to counterspin away from the opponent (since he knows exactly the spin of the opponent's ball - or else Tezuka Zone wouldn't be possible)
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    Sylent_Viper is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Actually, the Tezuka zone has nothing to do with prediction... I'ts "imposible" to predict accurately the moves of an opponent *cough*cough*pinnacleofgreatwisdom*cough. He just adds spin to the ball so that it affects the direction of the opponent's shot.

    I do agree with you that two tezuka zones just dont make sense, for example: If Tezuka hits the ball with the tezuka zone spin, then kabaji shouldnt be able to use his "kabaji zone" shot because he shouldnt be able to counterspin, only people with great eyesight/insight could (Atobe, probably Sengoku).

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    how does that work then? What if the opponent uses backspin or topspin? What if the opponent hits a flat shot? And a drop shot? There are too many different types of spins and shots for Tezuka's spin to work on every shot.

    I was pretty sure they explained that Tezuka had to predict the next move his opponent was going to make.

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    Tezuka Zone wouldn't work with a drop shot or cord ball, would it...
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    The point with that is... you can't hit a drop shot outside of Zero no Shiki... and a net hitting ball can't happen cause... that's how Tezuka Zone works. That's the whole point of the technique... that you don't have to move your ass around as much as your opponent to still be doing the same shit as usual.
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    I'd have to agree with wonderbread, Tezuka Zone does require a high level of prediction (higher than data tennis and dependent on "tennis sense") in addition to incredible spin control to work. It was explained that it's a technique which depends on experience and genius, so that after only a few exchanges with the opponent, Tezuka gets the hang of the opponent's playing style and adds the right spin to make the opponent's next shot return to him.

    The only explanation I could think of would be that Kabaji copies the way Tezuka adds spin to affect his (Kabaji's) next shot, and then also grasps Tezuka's play style and starts doing the same. Hey, it's been clearly shown that being simple minded doesn't mean he can only copy simple moves. I'm even more angry about the Pinnacle of Hard Effort. >_< I guess the "simple-mindedness" just means that Kabaji can focus his mind on only one thing, and in this case it's what the opponent is doing.

    As for what would counter act Tezuka Zone, Insight would work if we assume that Atobe has the right level of spin control (remember Echizen was using a downgraded version of Tezuka Zone and all of Atobe's techniques; Rondo Towards Destruction, Jack Knife, the shots after World of Ice; are flat), but what would work hands down would be Kagerou Zutsumi.

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    There are things in the manga/anime that aren't reasonable one bit. For example Tezuka Zone can determine return's direction via spin but not it's strengh, Therefor why not performing a drop volley making tezuka dash towards the net? It's so simple but for some reason the characters prefer to run all over the court ><

    About kabaji, Well i'm surprised you're talking about the tezuka zone, Because it's the "Left arm exploding with that muga thingy" that REALLY surprised me. It's good and all he can copy moves but how the heck can he copy mental states? Chitose explained it's about brain-waves or something like that, So how could kabaji copy that? O_O Just doesn't make sense!

    Next thing you'll know kabaji will be able to use "world of ice" >.>
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    The best analogy that I can think of Kabaji is Forrest Gump. He's simple mindedness enables him to mimic what he sees.

    Since Tezuka Zone would somehow affect what shots the opponent can use, it would limit the options. The muga defeated Kabaji because in the end he simply did not have the strength to do so. The muga enables returns 2x the strength and does not tire the player (supposedly). Yup, this things don't happen in real life.

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    hehe at first when the tezuka zone came out, i was just like "whatever" but after watching the chibi episodes ( ?? family?) with tezuka saying "tezuka zoooooooone" i got aditted to this move =P

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    hemm, tezuka zone is cool but i never did understand the concept behind it...and after reading all the posts here i still am clueless, ahahh just show how "much" i know about tennis.....~looks sheepish~ i guess u can say i watch the series because i like the way the characters develop and the way each tennis player is portray....although i do think sometimes that the moves are a bit exaggerated ....

 

 
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