Thread: hakugei's 1 fault - doesn't the return count as the opponents point?

Hakugei is a theoretically possible ball - its a basically a backspin ball - which causes the ball to rise and hop and because of its extreme backspin - it flies back at fuji.

Well its definetly possible to create the hop effect in golf - because of the prolonged distance - i've done it before - but it requires the right equipment and alot of experience.

The flying back part is a bit extreme but its theoretically possible - of course humans would not be able to do this.

So aside from critizing the phyiscs aspect of this move - because it is at least theoretically possible.

When the hakugei flies back into fuji's hand - doesn't this actually count as the opponent's point. Its just like when if you hit the opponent in the body but it bounces back into your court - it is still the opponent's point. Also if you hit the top of the net and it bounces into your side.

I am just a casual tennis player so correct me if i am wrong - but wouldn't it make more sense for the hakugei to fly into the net on the opponent's side instead of fuji's hand?

ok.. u said it's theoretically possible ball, then u said about flying back part.. of course humans would not be able to do this.. so u're saying animals can do this..?

but there are some stuff i agree on though.. about when the hakugei flies back to fuji's hand, i thought that's also suppose to be added to opponents points..

and about ur last paragraph.. it would make more sense if hakugei fly into the net, but the author wants to make it seem 'cooler'

if the ball goes back to fuji's hand it seems cooler then when the ball just goes to the net right..

Theoretically possible means that the idea makes sense - while it actual life its very hard to do. For example the zero shiki dropshot is theoretically possible - its just impossible practically. - It is just a contrast to later moves which make no sense at all.

I have done that in golf too just gotta hit it crisp wit control takes practice..
In tennis though i think its impossible to make it come back that far.
I have hit a dropshot in the service box that bounces back over but have not gotten nywhere close to the baseline that can bounce back over

doesn't the ball bounce twice before it gets into fuji's hand?" if it does than it's fuji's point.

Originally Posted by whatsntomake

When the hakugei flies back into fuji's hand - doesn't this actually count as the opponent's point. Its just like when if you hit the opponent in the body but it bounces back into your court - it is still the opponent's point. Also if you hit the top of the net and it bounces into your side.

when the ball hits your opponent its still your point, even when the ball bounces back to the your side after hitting the opponent, you arent allowed to use your body to return the ball in tennis. and even when it doesnt hit your opponent but bounces back to your side its your point. i also agree with what Kazeshinobi said about the ball bouncing twice it is still fuji's point

It doesn't count as a hit unless you actually HIT the ball with your racket. Since with the Hakugei, it goes back over the net without touching the racket, it should be Fuji's point. (Notice that in the FujivsTezuka match, Tezuka chased after the ball. That's why he scored that point.)

Originally Posted by juudenkanryou711

It doesn't count as a hit unless you actually HIT the ball with your racket. Since with the Hakugei, it goes back over the net without touching the racket, it should be Fuji's point. (Notice that in the FujivsTezuka match, Tezuka chased after the ball. That's why he scored that point.)

i belive you mean kirihara....

He probably means Tezuka, in their anime match. But yeah, in manga Kirihara was the first to return it if I 'm not mistaken

they have a match in the anime ?

what episode..?