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    Kochiro is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    LOLZ so true.

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    pYroboY is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    is there anything else in the tennis world that he hasn't countered?

    tsubame gaeshi = topspin
    higuma otoshi = smash
    hakugei = net/volley specialist
    kagerou zutsumi = irregular spin

    i read in wikipedia that Fuji's counters are based from elements:

    tsubame gaeshi = sky, higuma otoshi = earth, hakugei = water, kagerou = void

    that remains fire...(like from sanada's fu rin ka zan)

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    Tannhauser Serve

    Just one thing that someone got wrong was saying that this serve can be hit with topspin. It's not posibble. More topspin = more bounce. But if you use a backspin it wont move forward like a topsin. The Slice serve is probably the closest thing to a Tannhauser Serve. But it has to be a slice with an extreme spin to it. Even then it's not even close to it.


    Twist Serve (Right Hand)

    This is a theory. Now I don't know if this will work. If you want it exactly like Ryoma's, from the deuce side of the court, you would need to hit the ball so that it has a top-right spin to it. Also, you would also need to hit the ball weak so that the spin could apply faster. The point of contact would probably look like this:

    O\

    And when you hit it, you only hit to to apply the spin, but not to push it forward. The serve would probably look like a freebie serve, like the one that first guy ryoma beat did. I don't know. Mostly likely this won't even work. So what do you think? Elaborate on the good and BAD points on this theory.

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    lunariti is offline Member Newbie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majinx
    if it isnt hit with a massive amount of spin that it doesnt bounce then it isnt really the tannhauser serve. What exactly did you do different from your normal serves?? The way you describe your serve, it seems like all you need to do is hit a normal serve lightly but with alot of spin so it wouldnt bounce much.
    see the thing u guys are missing is that the tannhauser serve is impossible u can come very close to hitting something of the same degree but never will u hit a ball that will not bounce unless the damn ball is dead. as i said before the closest u can come is around a few inches of the court and that is ridiculously hard because u would have to place such great spin on it - preferably through a slice shot - since a topspin shot would be countereffective - to answer majinx's ? on what i did different - instead of my normal serve which i place to towards the far right corner's of the my opponents area i hit the "tannhauser" serve towards the center while trying to slice the ball at the same time - i know it sounds contradictory but as i was doing it (once again because it was during desperation and i was losing focus) i hit the ball soo since it was a slice it dide end of traveling to the corner however had wayyyy to much spin on it - idk how or why but its probably cause i gave it my all

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    lennay is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    The only shots that I can hit constistently are

    a) disappearing serve - but it does NOT go forward after bounce...pretty much darts horizontally immediately (it's actuall better this way)

    b) jack knife - simple, jumping backhand

    c) Kirihara's mirage (anime) - but from the backhand side...it's impossible from the forehand position because the required sidespin just can't be done from that angle. It's basically a backhand with lots of sidespin.


    As for Ryoma's twist serve, it is possible to hit a counter revolution serve but uhh...don't expect anything like the series.

    The serve doesn't travel forward enough so it's useless if the receiving player is not RIGHT at the service line.

    Spin-wise, you can get it to go at a pretty sharp angle i.e.: towards the face


    Other than the above shots, I don't believe the rest of the special techniques are hittable. The REALLY obvious ones anyways (4 counters, Tezuka zone, zero-shiki, sonic bullet, frame shots, etc)


    Feel free to spend lots of time practicing though!

    There's no better way to learn than from watching Federer's matches though...his strokes are just so beautiful.

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    To hit the twist serve like ryoma, or any pro hits it, you have to hold your grip in an easten backhand and make contact like this:

    \O

    The more towards 9 o'clock you hit it, the more the ball will jump to the side. And you don't have to hit the shot softly either, the whole point of the kick serve is to be able to hit it hard and still make it go in. You should generally aim for the right side of the service box, unless you're trying to throw your opponent off with the spin, which generally won't work unless they are a pretty new to tennis. I've also come to realize that the Drive C, which i originally thought was impossible is possible. It's not easy, and it looks nothing like ryoma's shot, but the ball flight is the same the way I hit it. Who knew?

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    Sylent_Viper is offline Senior Member Regular
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    I think the most impossible thing that happens in PoT is the Tezuka Zone. I maen... he can control where the ball will go if it's his shot, but he controls the spin of the opponent's shot??? What if he just lobs it? It comes back or something?

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    kokusaikone is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Trying to imitate the purported moves in POT can be frustrating and obviously, based on the above discussion, are products of Konomi's imagination. I wonder if the pro tennis players have ever seen the anime or read the manga. They maybe able to pick up some tricks or try them out (LOL!!).

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    Kochiro is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    I think the pro tennis players strategy is to hit it really hard. XD
    Back, and Drowsy.
    Someone should make me a signature.

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    let's just say, if you can hit a snake right by the net, you're pretty well off. and i'm not talking about a crosscourt shot.

 

 
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