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    hmm... ill have to think about this but for the time being... Aokiji is NOT the only df user to traverse the sea under his own DF power... remeber Ace and his little boat?


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    exactly: "his little boat" He is using a boat;/
    Fight or die!!!!!!

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    and Aokiji uses a bicycle, what's the difference, they're both just vehicles powered by their DF abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsliver
    and Aokiji uses a bicycle, what's the difference, they're both just vehicles powered by their DF abilities.
    no, ao kiji could walk on the ocean if he wanted, but he is lazy so he uses a bicycle....

    on the other hand, ace needs his special boat to travel...

    the only other guy (aside ao kiji) that maybe could traverse the ocean with only his DF ability would be eneru, if we assume he can "fly" using clouds or whatever ^^'

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    But you are assuming akoji can walk on the ocean because I haven't seen him done that and I won't believe so until he actually walk on the ocean or until the manga mention that. The way I see it is that, maybe the bicycle provided a degree of separation that is greater than his shoes, so he can ride on it. Besides, when a person's power is to change things into solid (walkable)ice, even if he can walk on ice, it doesn't mean that he's more powerful than other logia users, it just the nature of his power. Basically, I don't believe that there are much difference in powers between all the logia users.

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    yea i agree. but i think the strongest 1 they fought so far iz Hawkeyez. cuz he iz 1 of thoze stronger pirate godz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shottabwoy
    yea i agree. but i think the strongest 1 they fought so far iz Hawkeyez. cuz he iz 1 of thoze stronger pirate godz.
    yeah... crocodile was one too.. was he the strongest ?? ^^'

    @animefan : why ao kiji shouldn't be able to walk on ice ?? (assuming he has good shoes of course )
    and nobody said he was the strongest because he could walk on ice... but sure it's a good argument in his favor

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydiamond
    Actually, i didn't forget.....but, when he fought with luffy, he's so shocked and confused that he didn't remember to use it....that's why luffy able to punch him again and again....if he just calmed down, and use his mantra he could've predicted it and avoid it......that's why I said he's lacking experience....
    IMO, croc is not weak at all....he can create sand storm, sucked water out from a person or even land, etc....quite powerfull really...besides...he "killed" luffy as easy as aokiji defeated luffy (their first encounter)......
    Yeah, it happens becoz... usually when he 'Zap' someone, his victim burn into crisp or recieve a huge damage or Die even... and luffy stand like nothing happened when recieve his strongest attack? >_<
    i think he's not lacking of experience, but too SHOCKED to see a reality that someone actually could stand after his most powerfull attack.
    i even doubt luffy could touch him if he's not rubber? like the theory luffy can touch Croc becoz of his blood or water.
    Quote Originally Posted by Win[g]ed
    Which mean White Beard > Shichibukai > Goverment?

    Croc doen't count at ^ statement, suppose he's the Weakest 'Shicibukai' and maybe he's Luckily chosen as 'Shicibukai'... DUnno why but goverment always want 'SHicibukai' to be 7 people.
    When did i mention that Croc is weak? I only said he's the weakest 'Shicibukai'.

    My statemet ^ could be wrong if i don't add that, coz Aoikiji is a Goverment and he's definetly could beat Croc('Shicibukai')? ---> statement from aoikiji dun have the Proof ^_^;

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    Quote Originally Posted by shautieh
    no, ao kiji could walk on the ocean if he wanted, but he is lazy so he uses a bicycle....

    on the other hand, ace needs his special boat to travel...

    the only other guy (aside ao kiji) that maybe could traverse the ocean with only his DF ability would be eneru, if we assume he can "fly" using clouds or whatever ^^'
    Frozen or not, touching the sea drains a DF user's powers. He needs his bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsliver
    Frozen or not, touching the sea drains a DF user's powers. He needs his bike.
    do you think the caoutchouc (or other substance) in the bicycle tires is a special one ???
    and it doesn't work when used on shoes ??
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