air could easily beat ice, no matter how strong the ice fruit is... though i suppose something else can beat air... this can go on forever, i guess there's no one absolute devil fruit.
Elements naturally have weaknesses, like Eneru with his godlike abilities but luffy easily defeated him, so I think logia type devil fruits always have a weakness, no matter how strong they are.
So maybe permecia type devil fruits are the strongest, like Luffy´s.
yeah i agree....logia type has a huge weakness... but permecia also has a weakness too, like luffy, he can bounce back anything but not a sharp object..
Originally Posted by Crazytype
and also buggy... he can disconnect himself but it cannot be connected when he don't knoe where his other body part or hidden somewhere else... and other type of permecia has weakness....
I wouldn´t count this a weakness, I think Luffys biggest disadvantage is when he is enlarging his arm and deenlarging, theirs a huge window of opportunity in which the enemy is able to attack him off guard.
So Luffy must hit the enemy, or else they start a counterattack or grap his arm.
And buggy´s fruits hasn´t really a disadvantage either, when you forget where you put something, you wouldn´t be able to find it, it´s natural.
Tell me Mr. 1´s disadvantages, I don´t really see them, sure an enemy who´s able to cut steel, but there should only be fews of them who are able to perform such a thing.
Do you think it would be contradictory if someone had a Devil Fruit that could control water?
Well, I guess on land it would work, but what if he was about ot fall into the ocean. Could he part the water.
Better yet, what if he could turn into water. I guess it would negate and he'd probably die.
You Rule Sanosuke
Fire - Luffy`s brother Ace = Weak against water. Probably has a bigger advantage against ice.
thunder - Eneru (defeated by Luffy) = Weak against rubber. Otherwise he is godlike.
Ice - Aokji (marine general, really strong fought against Luffy and won) = Even if you smash him he regenerates. Weak against fire. But if you don't have a fire ability, there isn't a chance that you can beat him. He can turn the sea into ice so throwing him into the sea would hardly be a win.
Sand - Crocodile (defeated by Luffy) = Weak against water. Otherwise he is invulnerable.
Smoke - Cpt. Smoker. Invulnerable. Unlike fire weak against ice/water and ice weak against fire, there isn't an element that smoke is weak again. perhaps if somebody sucked the smoke that would be bad for Smoker ?
Smoke only exists in a certain atomsphere so ice is able to beat smoker.
Maybe zoan type (animal changing form) demon fruits are the strongest.
Ace also was aboe to defeat smoker earlier. He stated that his power was more powerful when he helped Luffy escape the first time they meet.
Maybe he was bragging, we only know his version but I think the fight was a stalemate.