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    Quote Originally Posted by giangho
    luffy's gears is more like some new bad ass moves which he had sharpened through out his many battles. he bound to learn something new with all the matches he had. But you know how them pussy japanese are, they always write something pussy like " am mad, am going to fight you to the last blood to save my friends (emo/naruto)"
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    Shut the hell up and go crawl back into the ghetto where you came from. No one likes you


    Anyway, back on topic

    His gear transformation most likely has something to do with vulcanization, which is the process used to harden rubber to keep it from deteriorating, as natural rubber does. So gear 2nd gave him more speed by hardening the rubber in his body, which would explain his steaming as well. Gear 3rd probably further hardened the rubber in his body, thus making him denser and more compact.

    "This irreversible cure reaction defines cured rubber compounds as thermoset materials, which do not melt on heating, and places them outside the class of thermoplastic materials (like polyethylene and polypropylene)." - quote www.wikipedia.com

    So, an educated guess would be that 4th gear will make him more resistant to logia users such as Ace and Aokiji?

    Though, I'm not sure if the name "Gear" has anything to do with the process of vulcanization itself...

    Just thought I'd point that out so people stop saying that he's going through some random transformation that's identical to "Super Sayajin", but it's a process that rubber actually goes through.
    Last edited by hyren; 03-11-2006 at 11:46 PM.

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    Oda never actually said or showed how Gear works or what it is.
    Gear being vulcanization is a theory based on how rubber is sulfonated to form a tough springy substance used for car tires. Non-asian cultured One Piece viewers would think this because they're not raised with magic kung-fu myths and fairy tales. I think the Asian cultured population would be imagining Luffy transforming his body to a higher energy state by harnessing chi energy. Gear 3, however, throws EVERYONE off their theories. (some people still say Gear 3 is a super-compressed rubber. They're just trying to hold onto their theories that they're proud of.)

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    "Super Saiyajin GEAR 3!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pentaelemental
    Gear 3, however, throws EVERYONE off their theories. (some people still say Gear 3 is a super-compressed rubber. They're just trying to hold onto their theories that they're proud of.)
    Actually, the theory does still make sense if you compare it to vulcanizing, especially since there really hasnt been much mention, if any at all, on chi or anything like that.

    And I'm just trying to hold onto a theory that makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by pentaelemental
    I think the Asian cultured population would be imagining Luffy transforming his body to a higher energy state by harnessing chi energy.
    And don't assume that japanese are going to assume that its all based on chi, the entire population isn't focused on martial arts and magic anymore. That's why they're one of the most technologically advance countries in the world. Physics for the win. And please don't speak for any population about whether or not they believe a certain way, especially since I'm a Japanese American who is familiar with Shinto, and yet I don't assume at all that it's about chi.

    And it would be unlike Oda to use something cliche like chi energy for a power up transformation since he's really good at producing something original
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyren
    Actually, the theory does still make sense if you compare it to vulcanizing, especially since there really hasnt been much mention, if any at all, on chi or anything like that.
    How so? Vulcanization is a chemical reaction with sulfur to make tough synthetic rubber. It doesn't shrink rubber. Actually, it makes rubber thicker since more mass is added in its polymerization.
    Chi, well, North Americans, South Americans, Europeans, Africans, Middle Easterners, Siberians, don't really believe in chi, since only China, Japan, Korea, Vietnamese, Thaimese, Cambodian, Laotian, Mongolian, Tibetan, Indonesian, Phillipino, Malasian, and any other Asian country I can't recall at the moment, all believe in Chi. That's a big part of the world. If they watch any Asian media, they will have knowledge of chi in their imaginations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pentaelemental
    How so? Vulcanization is a chemical reaction with sulfur to make tough synthetic rubber. It doesn't shrink rubber. Actually, it makes rubber thicker since more mass is added in its polymerization.
    Chi, well, North Americans, South Americans, Europeans, Africans, Middle Easterners, Siberians, don't really believe in chi, since only China, Japan, Korea, Vietnamese, Thaimese, Cambodian, Laotian, Mongolian, Tibetan, Indonesian, Phillipino, Malasian, and any other Asian country I can't recall at the moment, all believe in Chi. That's a big part of the world. If they watch any Asian media, they will have knowledge of chi in their imaginations.
    Think about it, is Oda really going to pull some chi crap? Probably not, especially since he generally tries to stay away from using recycled ideas. And how would concentrating chi shrink the body? He can shrink because he's made of rubber, so his transformation is more likely to have something to do with him manipulating the rubber in his body with something besides chi.

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    He already put in doukiri. He put in "breath". He's Asian. He can't help it all that much.

    And if I'm irritating, just say so. I'm a little unnerved right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pentaelemental
    He already put in doukiri. He put in "breath". He's Asian. He can't help it all that much.

    And if I'm irritating, just say so. I'm a little unnerved right now.
    Thats because zoro is meant to represent a samurai, but anyone else use chi or the principles of bushido? maybe one or two, but its not even close to half of the characters.

    Additionally, chi usage is based on meditation used to focus the spirit and the body, and if you ask me, Luffy doesn't seem like the kind of person to use meditation to become stronger.

    And since you asked, your cocky attitude is kinda pissing me off. Especially since you base your entire argument on the assumption that all asians are the same which is pretty m,uch telling me that you're a close-minded idiot. I'd appreciate it if you cooled it so we can have a meaningful debate. Thanks
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    Sorry, a shithead was spouting his shit at me.

    Well, chi was meant to be a philosophy of everything, so that's why it's popular in Asia. However, very few understand it, even if taught by the best teachers. Maybe Luffy's powers are completely magical and DF based in nature. Oda's the storyteller, let him say.

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    Luffy and meditation... Anyone remember Gomu Gomu no Duh?

 

 
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