Thread: Strongest fighter (overall)

And just being rubber should automatically give you the ability to touch electric energy (remember that everything passed through Enel/Eneru's body)? Luffy will put goop on his hands, and voilà, he can beat up Smoker too!

If it's a simple matter of putting stuff on your hands to beat up elemental ability users, where is the fun in that?

(My dad could beat Luffy with his hands on his back. He hate the "Scare crazy people to tears-fruit" (OMG, that was so awesome..! But it's a long story, and this is a One Piece-forum)

Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffysj

The thing is, Luffy always finds a way to win. Sure, Aokiji showed him that he's not THE BEST, but eventually, Luffy will seek him out and beat him up or something, or maybe Ace'll do that. Anyways, you guys are missing the point. If Luffy had fought Mr. 1, he would have found a way to beat him to. The fact that Zoro beat him is a physical improbability. A mass of steal with higher density than another mass of steal cannot be smashed with human impact by the latter steel. Zoro could NOT in a million years have sliced through Mr. 1's thick steel skin. Yet he DID, just like Luffy would have if Crocodile and Mr. 1 had switched places. Main characters always find B.S. ways around their problems. Do you really think that putting some water on your hands will let you beat the snot out of sand?

damn, don't have the picture, so we'll just have to settle for the quote.

"Every time you bring real life physics into a discussion about anime, god kills a catgirl."

It's anime, and in the anime world, it's possible. So don't go ranting about it could never happen, because then you just look like an idiot.

No, no.......you don't understand. Somebody else brought real life into it, talking about how Luffy could never beat Mr. 1. I was jsut using examples based on those principles.

Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffysj

No, no.......you don't understand. Somebody else brought real life into it, talking about how Luffy could never beat Mr. 1. I was jsut using examples based on those principles.

I was the one who talked about Mr 1 and Luffy, and I never brought up any thing about real life.

The fact is, Luffy's only weakness is blades. It's the only thing that can harm him, and the one thing he's usually worried about.

Well, Mr. 1 is one giant blade. Not only can Luffy not risk attacking him, because he can just turn himself into a blade and cut Luffy that way, but Luffy can't block his blows for the exact same reason. And even if he landed a punch, it'd just be punching steal, the same as someone punching Luffy when he's rubber.

long story short, Zoro is the same way with Croc, he's poorly set up to deal with him(both in his inability to damage croc well and unable to counter his attacks well)

So it's not a matter of Luffy beating Croc because he's a stronger fighter than Zoro, he was just in a better position to fight him then Zoro would be, and vice versa for Zoro's opponent.

I'd love to hear where I brought real physics into my arguement in that post.

You obviously have no real idea how physics work, do you? Rubber, when frozen, becomes as brittle as a corn dog stick. Physically, ice is rubber's weakness. But I really don't feel like getting into such a trivial argument. The only thing I have to say is that you can't just make up the fact that steel is rubbers weakness........just because Luffy can be cut doesn't make it his weakness..........Chopper, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Zoro, and Robin can all be cut........why isn't rubber THEIR weakness? Just because Luffy CAN be cut doesn't mean he should be afraid of knives.

I think that its like a pokemon match, theres no 'one' strongest fighter in the game. Each one has weaknesses and strengths that another devil user or even normal human can overcome. Probably when it really gets down to it its the person who has the most mental strength and drive to be the strongest.

Thats why I'd have to vote Luffy.

Originally Posted by Mekelba

I think that its like a pokemon match, theres no 'one' strongest fighter in the game. Each one has weaknesses and strengths that another devil user or even normal human can overcome. Probably when it really gets down to it its the person who has the most mental strength and drive to be the strongest.

Thats why I'd have to vote Luffy.

That's a pretty good analogy! I think maybe that's why Luffy can keep on continuosly smacking the hell out of people without dealing fatal blows.

Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffysj

You obviously have no real idea how physics work, do you? Rubber, when frozen, becomes as brittle as a corn dog stick. Physically, ice is rubber's weakness. But I really don't feel like getting into such a trivial argument. The only thing I have to say is that you can't just make up the fact that steel is rubbers weakness........just because Luffy can be cut doesn't make it his weakness..........Chopper, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Zoro, and Robin can all be cut........why isn't rubber THEIR weakness? Just because Luffy CAN be cut doesn't mean he should be afraid of knives.

Where in the hell did ice come from, and how does it have anything to do with the topic at hand? Sure, Luffy may be weak to it, but a man can have more than one weakness.

You know, you're not even worth the time to bother explaining this again.

yeah i agree person with mental strength will become really really strong, luffy is the example
but i think you need more than mental strength to be the strongest one, physical strength is also important.... you know in the world of one piece anything could happen and you must face many 'extraordinary' people out there..
hmm.... i think 'ace' suit that category, remember what luffy said, even though he already become 'rubber man' he still unable to beat ace
maybe both physical and mental strength he is better than luffy and it made him really really strong plus he is a mera mera fruit user afterall hehehehehehehehe

Here let me explain where Ice came from. You were talking about how Luffy's weakness is "Blades" right? I don't know where the hell you got that from, but you seem to think it's correct. This is probably the third time that I have explained this, but saying that luffy's weakness is blades is unreasonable, mainly cause everyone's weakness is blades. The only people who aren't weak against blades in general are Logia users and Mr. 1. (Not sure if you'd classify him as Logia or not). Anyways, here's where Ice comes in: Rubber's only real weakness IS ice. Thats basically it. I already explained it a number of times, and your stupidity at not re-reading posts is really pissing me off. Especially the way you can't give any ground. You sit like a pile of shit, and wont let any one touch you, not realizing, of course, that Nobody wants to touch you. I'm done with this bullshit, you whiny bitch. Shamgi, you're a fucking chode.