in my opinion, i don't think kizaru is a perfect match for blackbeard. blackbeard's ability is darkness and if you think about a black hole, even light cannot escape it.
what is this "highest bounty ever given" thing with doflamingo? isn't it only 340 mil?
luffy and kid is already in the 300 range as well. what do you guys suppose the bounty is on the yonkous' or even dragon? lower than 340 mil? i think not.
(and keep in mind that you haven't seen mihawk's former bounty yet)
so far, blackbeard looks the most promising.
mihawk can't be the most powerful, he is Zoro's nemesis/goal. Zoro is less powerful than Luffy. Luffy's nemesis/goal has to be more powerful than Zoro's.
Kuma's ability is the most versatile by far so he gets my vote. Imagine, he can travel anywhere he wants without a ship... even if he were to be losing a fight instant teleport anywhere, I doubt someone could stop him.
Wouldn't say Zorro is weaker than luffy, I'd say both are on par.
Luffy always gets the big ones cuz he is the mainchar, but i cannot see oda is stating anywhere zorror is weaker than luffy.
Wouldn't you btw think it'd be awesome to have s th like a tourney in one piece, like in, and i am sorry to say this and will slap myself, naruto or db?
I don't want to see the strawhats fighting against each other ofc, but though i like this toruney stuff, it's always the best part in the shonen mangas who had it.
And since one piece is the only good shonen manga out there...well, guess it was nice.
Btw I don't think the samurai have a strongest one because all their abilities are pretty different.
if it's just about 1n1 fights, i think it's flamingo or mihawk, and jinbei in the water ofc.
Boa would work on any male who has no resistance ofc, though, so you could say she is the strongest cuz she owns everyone cept mb kuma, cuz he's a cyborg.
Anyways i would say moria, BB (if you still count him), and zero as ex are no match for these.
Sure BB owned ace, but still i see BB as underdog, whatever he is trying to do.
He is not your big imba nemesis as enel was.
About RuffyxZorro. I think Oda shows that Ruffy is stronger through the fact that he always fight the big ones. That's not only because Ruffy is the main character.
I think Zorro couldn't have taken out the bosses with the strenght he had when they faced each one of them.
Not Croc, not Enel, not Lucci, and maybe not even Arlong (even if he would've been at full strenght that time).
Ruffy is just stronger. It's not by much, but he still has the lead.
I agree with most of this except for a couple of things:
Originally Posted by neruke
1. Doflamingo's abilities hasn't even been hinted to be the result of devil fruit. It could just be his way of using Haki. I mean, you could use it for reading movement then you can use it for puppetry-like control.
2. I don't know how Whitebeatd would fare against Teach. In all honesty, Blackbeard's probably much stronger than we have seen.
3. It took Luffy+ the entire SH crew with help from allies and a 100 shadows to take down Moria and they were so tired at the end of it they could barely stand. You underestimate the guy.
Problem is we dunno exactly what moria can do alone.
without the giant zombie he would not have been that strong, probably.
but maybe he has made another? :P
Hmm, coming to think of it, they should've given moria gol d roger's body^^
It may one day turn out that you are completely correct about this; but until that day comes I see no reason to believe Haki is anything but spiritual pressure that serves two purposes:
Originally Posted by isildur
1) To do the "presense aura" thing that's in most shounen.
2) To give them enough of said aura to bypass the Logia's intangibility.
That second thing is something we have to assume is true; as I don't remember it ever being specifically stated that Rayleigh's ability to touch Kizaru was because of Haki. I'll accept it for now, as we've not seen whether or not the intangibility is turned off during an attack. Hell, until we saw the Ace vs Jimbei fight we didn't know Ace could be touched at all while unrestrained.
in my opinion i believe that mihawk is the strongest because he is on par with shanks who is on par with whitebeard hence mihawk= whitebeard who is the " strongest pirate"
Shanks in not on par with White Beard....MiHawk said himself he wanted to measure the difference in stength between himself and White Beard. Apart from that MiHawk won't even fight Shanks anymore now that he lost an arm + last time we saw shanks he was fighting White Beard, and now White Beard is rescuing Ace so Shanks was not able to stop him.
Originally Posted by dominirican
And correction WB is not the strongest pirate>> HES THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD as Oda referenced him. He was the only man able to fight at Gold Rogers level, meaning that now WB has no one truly on par with him.