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    crfgvn is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    Its about Aokiji. Which side do you think hes on ?
    I mean, look at all what he did. 20 years ago he let Robin escape, even showing that he despised Akainu's personality and actions. Then later as he met the Strawhat (after the Foxy battles), he could have easily killed off Robin and captured the whole crew but he didnt. And as he talked to her through the wall at the Galley-La backyard after the Enies Lobby arc, he told her to live her life "to the fullest" and that "Ohara hasnt fallen yet" . The day after, he just laid back and relaxed as Garp (fake)attacked the Thousand Sunny. Well I think he sure got some sense of justice and humanity =)
    So do you think that hes supportive of Robin's goal ? Do you think that he even KNOWS the "true history" ? I myself am quite curious about this. What is the truth that the WG sp badly wants to bury ?
    Let me hear your opinions ^^

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    He is on the marine side, but as every people he has his own opinions of course. It's the same for Garp, and most other characters in One Piece by the way, because thankfully, Oda is not a Manichean !

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    It's not about Marine's versus Pirates.. its about the World Government.

    The world government is a totalitarian regime. Some marines fully back the government, some marines just want legal power to kick ass, some marine's just want to do the right thing. Some Marines know the government is crooked, but know the Anarchy without the world government would be worse than the government, and some work for the government despite the corruption because they don't see anyone capable of stopping the WG.

    I think Aokiji (and Kuma) both fit into the last one... Garp, Smoker, Hina, and their crew seem to fit in the 'just try and do the right thing' category..

    just my 2 beri worth

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    i think i agree with ^

    while some marines/people think that the world govt is good, aokiji seems to realise that the people he worked for aren't good people, but he also realises that as evil as they are, they are a neccessary evil

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    I think the same except I don't think that the world government is that evil. It's the same as the marine, there are people with different motives, some better than others.

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    he has his own sense of justice.unlike "absolute justice",the motto held by marines.
    I also think that aokiji is doubting WG because strwhat's doing.
    they're not ordinary pirates that did evil things...they didn't attack citizens,help a country,almost beriless(before skypiea arc)


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    Quote Originally Posted by shautieh View Post
    I think the same except I don't think that the world government is that evil. It's the same as the marine, there are people with different motives, some better than others.
    We've seen that the WG is very corrupt in general, and that its motto of "Absolute Justice" very often takes it to a dangerous extreme (consider the Ohara incident, the Shichibukai, and CP9 among others). It's safe to say that people like Garp and Aokiji are in the minority among the Marines. We already know that one of the admirals, Akainu, is a cold-hearted bastard, and I'm guessing Kizaru won't be much different. I'm interested to see what kind of person Sengoku and the higher-up officials are, but the WG will remain largely an antagonistic force in One Piece, and for good reason.

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    sengoku...pretty funny guy IMO...well I think all the higher up in the WG already knows luffy's connection with garp.but how come they didn't know the connection between dragon and garp and luffy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3955elits View Post
    sengoku...pretty funny guy IMO...well I think all the higher up in the WG already knows luffy's connection with garp.but how come they didn't know the connection between dragon and garp and luffy?
    funny when imagine sengoku act like tilestone & peeplylulu(after they know who's lucci&kaku are actually)...

    no way, ofcourse he'll know connection between three of them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusFreakDK View Post
    We've seen that the WG is very corrupt in general, and that its motto of "Absolute Justice" very often takes it to a dangerous extreme (consider the Ohara incident, the Shichibukai, and CP9 among others). It's safe to say that people like Garp and Aokiji are in the minority among the Marines. We already know that one of the admirals, Akainu, is a cold-hearted bastard, and I'm guessing Kizaru won't be much different. I'm interested to see what kind of person Sengoku and the higher-up officials are, but the WG will remain largely an antagonistic force in One Piece, and for good reason.
    What's extreme about the shichibukai ? I understand for the CP9, though our "democratic" governments have this kind of special units too. It's extreme for the CP9 and Ohara, but at the same time not far-fetched at all, which makes it all the more interesting.

    And it is absolutely unsafe to say Garp and Ao Kiji are in the minority, because the vast majority of the marines we have seen are not cold bastards at all, and are in the marine to defend justice and help people, as we could expect. As you move up the ladders, here are the bastards (it's just like in the real world, isn't it ?), though again we can see that Garp and Ao kiji are great guys, as well as smoker, and Aka inu isn't necessarily that bad. You can't say he is a cold bastard, for 2 reasons :
    - first when he ordered to kill the civilians, he had this weird facial expression which could mean he had a hard time giving this order (cf second point). It could also be because he is a cold bastard of course, but we shouldn't be so sure about it for now.
    - second, he ordered to kill them for what can be seen as a good reason : what would be the point to destroy the entire island along with the historians if even ONE of these was able to get aboard the boat ???? The whole atrocious act would be meaningless ! What this mean is that maybe he would have liked to not destroy Ohara at all, but when you do something you do it right, and thus he had to give this order, so the whole event wouldn't have been in vain.

 

 
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