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    I can only assume madara can pull them in because he is madara, with senju power and sage mode. his chakra level must be greater than the entirety of akatsuki since it took 3 days and nights without even orochimaru there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Wanted to comment to this a while now. To be fair jag, 1) any attack from a lesser opponent to god madara would be pointless, 2) other ninja probably know trying to attack one on on with him would not only prove pointless as well but also draw attention to themselves and then result in their death, lol. I guess it can be argued that they would have to do another combined attack... but something to that caliber would be possible if they are still Kyuubi enshrouded. Either way, they all know they place.
    I have to disagree with both points. Even if Madara isn't distracted by the chakra extracting process and he can still force out Susanoo even though he's in Rinnegan mode, Tsunade has already shown that she can break through it. It appears that Madara has to stay where he is to get the chakra into the statue, yet Hashirama, the Fourth, none of the other kage, and not even Sasuke is doing a damn thing about a MORTAL, clearly NOT invincible man just standing there, clearly fucking everyone over by jacking their newly allied chakra beasts? The fodder, sure, they can cower all they want; no one expects anything of them. But everyone else? Just watching Naruto and Bee get fucked like that? I smell a plot hole.

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    That wouldn't be a plothole, just plot induced stupidity.
    Maybe we'll see if there's more to it next chapter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJaggid View Post
    I have to disagree with both points. Even if Madara isn't distracted by the chakra extracting process and he can still force out Susanoo even though he's in Rinnegan mode, Tsunade has already shown that she can break through it. It appears that Madara has to stay where he is to get the chakra into the statue, yet Hashirama, the Fourth, none of the other kage, and not even Sasuke is doing a damn thing about a MORTAL, clearly NOT invincible man just standing there, clearly fucking everyone over by jacking their newly allied chakra beasts? The fodder, sure, they can cower all they want; no one expects anything of them. But everyone else? Just watching Naruto and Bee get fucked like that? I smell a plot hole.
    You have a point, my comment was more towards the fodder rather than the big hitters you named though. I did not want to clump everyone in yet because things are developing really fast but I think, thus far, its plausible why no-one has counter-attached madara as yet. Yes I can understand that it seems like Madara is just having his way with the Bijuu but to be fair how much time has pasted between the moment he took them on without Rinnegan (and the odds were in Team Bijuu's favor) to when he got the Rineegan and immediately flipped the script on them........like what? 1-3 minutes? Feels like less in the heat of battle.

    For starters, how close is everyone? When was the last time we saw Tsunade and company? Didn't Naruto send Madara flying in a particular direction away from the action at one point? Also the battle between the Bijuu and Madara is out of this world and on a gargantuan proportion, so i wouldn't expect anyone, Kage even, to interfere with Naruto, Bee and the other 7 beast. Next as Madara got powered up and grabbed a hold of the beasts he literally started sucking the Bijuu in like a ravenous mobster slurping down spaghetti, which is where we are at now so (still in the process of having these beast being dragged in).

    Now in the moment he got the chains on them there was a window for someone to intervene. If the Raikage and Tschikage* are close I guess its plausible that they could use their density decreasing and lightning speed combo to get to Madara quickly but without a clear idea of their proximity from the action, the speed at which Madara is doing his thing while taking into account the rapid concession these events are occurring it makes sense to me why no-one hasn't intervened yet.

    Of all the things that's happened involving Madara thus far, I wouldn't call a lack of an immediate intervention between the time he got his good eye to now a plot hole, especially given the way Madara is godly now. Susanoo aside, if someone was quick enough, 4th?, to get to him they'll be a mere blink's distance from 1 Shinra Tensai bitchslap then its back to slurping in dem Bijuu. At the rate Kishi is portraying him unless there's a combined effort among multiple kage type opponents, which would take time to coordinate, I doubt there's anything any one shinobi, 1st included, could do against Madara, as he is now, to make him flinch.
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    I'm gonna focus on just two of your points, which I think are the main ones: proximity and time.

    Proximity: The ninja armies are actually very close to him at the start of the Bijuu battle, but the people who can make a difference are all strangely missing: http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/vTBD/c657/20.html

    Time: The kage were able to coordinate an attack very quickly in the first Madara battle despite being apart from one another, fighting 5 Madara clones each, which almost defeated him until he used the ultimate Susanoo. Madara took time to beat up Hashirama, Sasuke, a few fodder nins (to apparently take their chakra and rejuvenate sage mode), get his ass kicked around by the Bijuu, get back his eye, get his arm re-attached, and then bring the fight back to the Bijuu, all while having a few tidbits of pleasant chitchat, and still the kage can't put something together?

    That said, overall I agree that there wasn't much the kage or anyone else could do, at least nothing that doesn't require some planning and creativity. The thing is, that didn't stop them from stubbornly trying the first time around, and as far as I could tell, they weren't exactly broken when they reentered the battle after getting saved by Orochimaru.

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