Wait, Madara was able to use the ultimate Susanoo before having Hashirama implanted into him? When have they said this?
The first Berserk movie is out!
The perfect Susanoo has some horrible history. How does Madara know it's THE perfect Susan if it wasn't possible without Hashirama's sperm meaning it wasn't possible before having been killed by Hashirama?
Weirder and weirder...
Thats what I was trying to figure out as well... but by his speech patterns, when he mentioned the only person that could defeat him (after using this form?) and about the maps not being too drastically redrawn (then dramatically destroying some mountains), leads me to assume that he had indeed used the final Susanno before and was all too familiar with it. Sasuke has a final version of Susanoo which we've seen as well.. only difference is that Madara is the only person we've seen stabalize their Susanoo's chakra to the point that it has a complete body rather than just an upper torso, so in effect sasuke already has a version like this but he just needs to learn how to control it's chakra better no doubt.
Originally Posted by TheJaggid
PS Jag, I watched the Berzerk movie yesterday myself. Top Quality shit son!! Cant wait for the next installment!!!
Eh. Just watched it. All the cel-shading really turned me off. Better than the TV anime, at least, but still not the anime the manga deserves.
We know how Tobirama died. But i do not recall ever seeing any mention of how Hashimara died. As for Madara. We already know he survived the battle as he is older here than when he fought Hashirama and awakened the rinnegan later prior to his death.
Originally Posted by krazykwasi
The current Madara is a young/unlimited chakraRinnegan'ed/Hashirama's juice boost version of the true Madara.
Kishi's far from clear. We don't know what Madara could do against the First and we can't really compare with what he can do now.
@TheJaggid- I feel bad because I could have linked to that almost a week ago. Slipped my mind.
I loved the animation they used in there. You can tell every shot was made specifically for the movie. Even when Guts is training with his sword on the stairs. The movie was epic. People stick through worse styles in manga and anime. One Piece being a great example.
If Sasuke were my brother I would have slapped the shit out of him. Problem solved. If you need any advice on how siblings handle each other, talk to me Kishi.
Who knows? Maybe that's what he's going to do before the Edo Tensei wears off. Head-poking didn't seem to work last time and how many times does one get the chance to pimp-smack a sucka from beyond the grave?
Originally Posted by Yazen
The final version of Susanoo was very aesthetically pleasing, but beyond that, it's too groan-inducing for me to care enough about it, particularly when a line like "Not even the tailed-beasts can stand up to it!" is dropped (though, I understand it might've been lost in translation). I agree with several of the previous posts, because it does seem to leave alot of questions unanswered.
Does the perfect form differ from person to person? If not, then was the redundancy of the previous shapes really necessary? Every evolution of the technique afforded a new ability, as far as I can gather, so is the final form just IMBA+1? I'm leaning more towards the opinion that this is just a plot-tool, designed to give Sasuke a fighting chance against full-on Kyuubi cloak, despite the differences between EMS Susanoo and the cloak never having been addressed at all.
What's the condition for earning it? Is it the Rinnegan? If so, then I'm assuming that Madara had indeed evolved his EMS into a Rinnegan before his battle with Hashirama. What does that mean for the Gedo Mazo? Because I honestly expected THAT to be the final form of Susanoo and would be more inclined to accept it as a challenge to the tailed beasts since that's relatively well established.
Sucks that there's a break next week, but this cliff-hanger wasn't so bad. Regarding chapter 560, I predict that Madara will reveal that he is in possession of the Rinnegan and will likely use it to drop a boulder or two on Gaara'a army. Place your bets. :P
But it looks like I'm going to hate Hinata's new personality.
I'd still tap, though.
Now why would you post something like that? It makes me depressed..