Thread: Naruto 560 here

i was already thinking before that tobi might not be an uchiha, and that theory has gotten stronger the past two chapters. the only idea i had before that tobi is someone who isnt an uchiha but has a high amount of chakra like naruto. thats why he wore a mask concealing one of his sharingan eyes so that the amount of chakra drained from him will be cut in half, similar to why kakashi covers his sharingan eye when he doesnt need it. now its more and more possible given the fact that if tobi could have simply awakened his rinegan, then there would be no need to take them from nagato. although kakashi was still able to upgrade the two tomoe sharingan he got from obito all the way to a magenkyo sharingan.

leading candidate right now is still madara's brother to be tobi because clearly its someone he knows. but im curious on who else could be the one behind the mask that knows madara personally, know that a jinchuruki's seal is at its weakest when she's in child birth, and still realistically be alive till now. i also want to rule out every single person thats been summoned so that takes away all the previous hokages. it makes me wonder though why kabuto hasnt revived orochimaru yet. im sure he's had enough blood sample from the past.

Originally Posted by Kykashi_X

Wow, after reading that I have to say it's hard to believe the 1st Hokage was able to beat Madara back in the day. Especially after Madara said he achieved the rinnegan before he died. It's getting pretty twisted (in a good way)

It shows that the 1st Hokage is godlike.

Guys, you forget the former chapter and that madara has actually survived his fight with the 1st! Seems like he got his Rinnegan even later...dunno, has to do something with him (the real Madara) and Tobi ( his soul/a clone/another person).

And the Byakugaan is out of this entirely, I think. Kishi must have forgotten about it being there even before the Sharingan. Or we might be in for another surprise - but I find that unlikely....

we never really found out how nagato got his rinegan. it was implied that he had awakened it when his parents died, but we never really saw his eyes without it cause it was always covered with his hair. is it possible that nagato was implanted the rinegan as a baby or something? that they were really an uchiha's eyes that evolved into the rinegan?

So Madara's Rinnegan evolution actually gives credence to Tobi's words about "giving the Rinnegan to Nagato" somehow. Whether or not the requirement for an Uchiha's eyes to evolve into the Rinnegan is the EMS or not is still unconfirmed, but given the immense power of the combined Rinnegan and EMS being used in tandem I can only assume it is. Regardless the cards are in place for an inevitable Rinnegan wielding Sasuke. Kabuto took a major gamble on Madara being able to awaken his Rinnegan in the nick of time when he did because if that had failed his trump card would've been out of commission within a few short minutes.

Also, Madara also seems to have an idea of who the mystery man can be but I still cant narrow down the choices. I cant see Obito because he showed no evil intentions towards the leaf, the ninja establishment and was quite proud of his heritage and friendships outside of his clan. And I definitely DONT even think about it being Sasuke's dad because Itachi was seen to be plotting the Uchiha massacre with the mysterious Masked man, so that should rule him out completely in my book. The only person I can think about, that Madara might seem to know in deep detail, would be his brother or the 1st himself.... but thats neither here nor there and more like blind stabs in the dark at this point. I gotta hand it to Kishi... he's fucking us good with the excitement.

Rewinding old theory...........

Every ninjas bloodline can be trace back to the first sage. Each bloodline has been gone through mutation of their own... Creating their own unique abilities

Another old theory
The reason why uchiha couldn't, or should i say shouldn't, have the ability to awaken rinnengan within them is because the sage somehow manage to seal that power from the first uchiha.. Because he doesn't deserve it...

New theory
Apparently uchihas, or at least madara, knows how to open that seal and write it down...
Question remain: what about the wondering frog sage... Whose life is to go around the world learning something.. Jiraiya?
does he know it too? What about his last remaining student..

"THAT JUTSU" ANYONE??? ^__^ don't hate me for this....

i've been thinking the first for a while now but always come back to the fact that he has already been revived by orochimaru in the past. it would have had the made the most epic reaction though. the more i think about it, the more i wish it isnt an uchiha. no destiny crap or anything.

it would be nice if it was an uzumaki though. nagato was said to be a decedent of one, so it explains how he knows of nagato, of the weakness in the seal of a jinchuriki, and his whole obsesion of being complete.

it was stated that the 2 sons of the rikudo sennin each got a part of him, one being the eyes the other is the body. an uzumaki being a distant relative of the senju could have the potential to have the body, then transplanted the eyes of an uchiha to be complete. only thing left for him is to seal the 10 tails in himself as the rikudo once did.

Oro's soul has been sealed.

Also, anybody else realize how much more durable Naruto's clones are? Not just in the super modes (Fox and Frog) but in regular ole Naruto moods as well. They have been taking typical attacks that would've made them go *poof* in the past yet now they just shrug them off and ready themselves for more action. I have to admit though, seeing them linger and converse with others is weird cause we've gotten used to seeing them in battle, pretty much as tools and stepping stones, more than being actual manifestations of Naruto's consciousness. At least they know they are clones so thats good.

This whole eye-power instant mastery routine irritated me in a number of ways, and like an oyster, I'm trying to make a pearl out of it.

My first thought is that, contrary to the way the eye transplant was portrayed in the Kakashi Gaiden, for those in the eyeball clans, switching them is as easy as dequiping and requiping a slot in a RPG.

The Uchiha used to have Swingers' Parties, where each guest would drop an eyeball in the big bowl by the door, then they'd draw to see who's eyeball they'd get and just pop that sucker in the empty socket. Voila!

And like and RPG magic item, alll of the eyeball's powers were listed on the drop-down menu, but some of them were grayed out until you had sufficiently leveled up. This explains why they know everything it can do, and can use the powers right away without having practiced.

Oh well. Not a pearl, still just an irritant.