That bullshit about Madara giving Nagato the Rinnegan is too far fetched. I'm sure he meant something less direct like sending the shinobi to kill Pains parents, thus awakening his eyes.
And we do know a lot about the Rinnegan awakening. We know it's not as easily passed down like in the clans and we know that really only 1 person per era has it legitimately. We know this last piece of information because if more than 1 person had it during any era there would be more characters who know about it.
When had they ever said that anyone other than Nagato has had it ever since the sage?
Originally Posted by Yazen
And you may be right about Madara activating it.
Well that's exactly my point. I say 1 person per era because we can't say exactly how long ago the Sage lived and I cannot say with accuracy that besides Pain he was the only one to have a Rinnegan. It just seems safer to say it may only pop up in one person every once in a while.
Your point doesn't sound like mine at all. Be clear about it: Are you assuming there are only 2 eras in the entire Naruto universe, or are you assuming there have been more Rinnegan users when there has been no indication of that at all?
I don't think either of those assumptions are plausible.
There isn't a set time for an "era." It merely ends when a certain subject or topic has passed. Your point was that they never said anything about anyone other than the Sage and Nagato having the Rinnegan. My point is that they haven't confirmed that the Sage was the only one to have the Rinnegan up until Pain. The Rinnegan was shrouded in legend practically. Who's to say that it hasn't been in one person every great while.
The Sage must have lived an extremely long time ago. Enough time for his sons to build up clans and families. Enough time for his power to be evolved into the Uchiha bloodline and Senju bloodline. In all that time I don't think Pain was the only Rinnegan user and it was never stated that he was. It's just that uncommon.
So you're point sort of makes my point because all I'm really saying is that they haven't confirmed that no one for those almost 700 years (maybe more) has had the Rinnegan besides Pain.
If you ask how I got 700 years it's because Madara said it was centuries ago that the Sage lived. With everything that needed to happen in the clans and bloodline creation it could certainly take this time if not longer. With as little as everyone knows it's no wonder they don't have detailed info.
high rabble ended. need to find more matches.
era-a period of time marked by distinctive character, events, etc.
Edit: I really don't like posting more than 2-3 times in a thread even though I will. I feel terrible for taking up so much space when I should have just changed my wording around. Most of my posts come late at night when I'm out of work, tired and high. And I do know what era means. Look it up. It's exactly what I said. There have only been 3 great wars so far (not counting the present war) and we don't know how long any of them lasted. I do not ever remember talking about only 2 eras. I only used that word to describe the Sage's or Pain's lifetime because it was a change for the entire shinobi world. If a Rinnegan happened to pop up again in the world (after the Sage, before Pain) it would probably be during a time of change and need. My exact quote would be "we know that it's not easily passed down like in the clans and we know that really only 1 person per era has it legitimately." My meaning being that only 1 person can have it at a time until their death. That's how I see it's power working. Also I'm not really counting any of the Rinnegan eyes inside the Jinchuurikis bodies because I'm pretty sure the eyes are powerless without real Rinnegan controlling the rest. And fuck yeah we don't know shit but I'm gonna blast all the stupid assumptions out of my head! What use are they with me alone
Great Wars are excellent ways to divide eras, and are usually used to do exactly that, which is why it surprises me that you would say there's only two eras in the entire Narutoverse.
How Nagato got his Rinnegan is up in the air. It wouldn't surprise me if Madara actually gave Nagato his eyes through some shady method, which is why it wouldn't surprise me if those eyes in Madara's possession are the only ones in existence since the sage, maybe even the sage's eyes themselves.
What it comes down to is that it's one or the other and neither has been confirmed, which, I see now, is the point you thought we shared. Except, you didn't make that point. You said "we know that really only 1 person per era has it legitimately", I said, though in different, simpler words, 'Wtf are you talking about? We don't know shit! There have been more than two eras, so if what you say is true, than we know that there have been more than two Rinnegan users, which we don't.'
So yeah, high rabble indeed. This is what happens when you don't explain things properly, or don't have your word definitions down and yet still insist on using them. Now you understand why I asked you to clarify on what exactly your assumptions are.
I don"t see Naruto developing a rinnegan! Even so Pain had red hair like Naruto's mum...
Madara explained the bloodline split between Senju and Uchiha.
If Naruto is indeed a Senju, can he still develop an eye power?
Well, after all... Naruto is Senju from his father but he may also be a descendantsof the 6 paths sage having doujutsu (eye power) through his mother (red hair like Pain). Who knows?
Let's wait and see... :)
Naruto has senju through his mother. Not his father.
Originally Posted by Lord Ickam
Nagato was named an Uzumaki like Kushina and that the Uzumaki are distant relatives to the Senju.
Distant relatives to the Senju, but not Senju. Minato is definitely a Senju.
How can you be so sure Minato is Senju. I'm not sure if it was ever fully stated.