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    Bledge is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    The gourd reminds me a lot of Itachi's with his Susanoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Humans, or as Raikage said "average' humans, can't wield it cause they run the risk of dying since the weapons drain huge amounts of chakra but since we see the brothers with them in their possession even before they fought the Kyuubi then its probably because they were special and had gargantuan amounts of chakra even before they got the Kyuubi's.
    Could be possible but when Tsunade said she wasn't sure she believes the story, the Raikage told her about the huge amount of chakra they drain, making it seem like it was the kyuubi's chakra that lets them use the weapons.

    Which begs the question was them getting swallowed by the Kyuubi an accident?

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    ^ If thats the case then Kishi effed up because they were shown with the weapons when they faced the Kyuubi. They dont come off as the mindless Hidan types that would face the something as menacing as the Kyuubi unless they felt they could win, and having those weapons seemed to have made them think they were invincible enough to challenge it in the first place. Im sure someone with an immense amount of chakra like a Kage, Kisame, and maybe even the brothers pre Kyuubi chakra could wield the weapons, but for a limited amount of time, but having the extra chakra of a Bijuu made them more beasty and increased the time they could fight with them. To be continued I guess.

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    so wait...
    all those weapons (from the 7 swordsmen and the two brothers)
    that were missing all those times are back.
    because the Death summoned them to into this world again..

    ok, I'm cool with that

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    @Bledge-All the items resonated more with the Uchiha than the kyubi imo. The gourd and the the sword reminded me of Susanoo, and a fan was the clan's symbol.

    ^^I thought Kin/Ginkaku had high chakras to start with and were able to wield their weapons fairly well to start off with, then saw the kyuubi as a huge chakra meal to amplify their chakra and their ability to use the weapons. I'm not entirely convinced getting eaten was part of the plan (considering the kyuubi's nuclear spitball) but it's plausible. They probably underestimated the toxicity of the kyuubi's chakra though.

    I think the real question begged is how and when they got their weapons.
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    as for how they manage to use the weapon b4 kyuubi chakra infuse to them: remember they were already a monster b4 they got kyuubi chakra...

    which raise the question: did they have that facial sign even b4 they went into kyuubi? or do they get that after they went into kyuubi?

    if it's the first, then they might really do have some kind of relation with naruto. having a distinctive facial sign and a certain type of 'monstrous chakra' (following the theory that naruto can carry the kyuubi chakra because he has a monstrous chakra.) the one that stated on the manga long ago
    also from there we could correlate on how this two can survive inside kyuubi for long... which is: having this particular type of 'monstrous chakra' gives the effect of nullifying the toxic kyuubi chakra.
    while these two survive inside kyuubi for two week, naruto survive with kyuubi inside for whole life

    on how they manage to got their weapon: i think b4 they become a hidden cloud criminals, they are a hidden cloud nin. i'm guessing the hidden cloud manage to aquire these ultimate treasures when they're doing their "gathering nin knowledge and many more including bloodline from all over the world" campaign. and simply let them use it since they're the only one that can. that is if no one else has a huge amount of chakra like they do.

    long shot:
    these weapons (including the fan if looked at a certain POV) are all sealing type of weapons... i'm guessing long ago they're kept by a certain clan who has high knowledge on sealing techniques.. 'that' clan we all knew
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    Is the missing fifth weapon the fan that Madara has?

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    @ Urameshi: Special weapons are mysteries in Naruto World. We get to know the principles of chakras, justus, kuchiyose and seals, but we never got a clue about the means to create special weapons, except with the new ones beign a part of Rikudo Senin's arsenal. Are they only imbued with special chakras/seals or do they need more things (a "soul" like Samehada?)?
    I can't stop but make the connections between these weapons and the fact that Naruto will be able to use them all at once with Kyubi chakra arms.
    But as you said, they are more alike Uchiha's style.

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    Shit, if Naruto was to have only ONE of those items I'd think he's benefit most from the fan since it allows him to use all elements (and we always wanted him to learn more even though we sure as hell figured out by now that Kishi isn't going to give him another 1). I cant see Naruto wielding stuff like the rope, gourd, and sword that allows him to seal the souls of his victims, expect for only Madara. He'd look pretty badass with a sword vs the fan though.

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    heheh. Make him swallow the sword and the fan as well as the frog, just to make him squirm. Imagine telling the guy that he has to swallow the gourd. That would definately be an instant moment of hilariousness for this manga.

 

 
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