Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 29
  1. #11
    Numbnut10 is offline Member Frequent Poster
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    79

    Default

    I was getting all excited when Naruto was about to transform into the Nine Tailed Fox. But of course, Naruto predictably failed. Isn't he supposed to be the knucklehead unpredictable ninja? It seems like every time Naruto takes one step forward, he ends up taking two steps back. He's got two transformations that give him incredible power, but both of them just keep adding dangers. Sage Mode can't be used in combat because of the time-to-download problem. And his new Fox Mode is problematic because the Kyuubi gets to suck on Naruto's own chakra whenever he enters it.

    You know what would be perfect? If Naruto could somehow figure out a way to combine them so that the Kyuubi sucks on the Nature chakra instead of Naruto's chakra. Then the Kyuubi would turn good (shaddup its manga logic) and Naruto would FINALLY get some actual progress. In fact, if Naruto could give the Kyuubi control for a while, it would give Naruto free reign to absorb Nature chakra. You know, the whole "separating movement from absorbing" deal that was mentioned a long while back.

    Of course, this is entirely speculative and we all know that Kishimoto wants to make Naruto struggle for his wins. Easy upgrades are the sole property of the Uchiha. It's complete bull**** favoritism.
    I brainstorm with my multiple personalities.

  2. #12
    DivineVTDragon is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Fremont, Ca
    Posts
    942

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Numbnut10 View Post

    You know what would be perfect? If Naruto could somehow figure out a way to combine them so that the Kyuubi sucks on the Nature chakra instead of Naruto's chakra. Then the Kyuubi would turn good (shaddup its manga logic) and Naruto would FINALLY get some actual progress. In fact, if Naruto could give the Kyuubi control for a while, it would give Naruto free reign to absorb Nature chakra. You know, the whole "separating movement from absorbing" deal that was mentioned a long while back.

    Of course, this is entirely speculative and we all know that Kishimoto wants to make Naruto struggle for his wins. Easy upgrades are the sole property of the Uchiha. It's complete bull**** favoritism.
    Sage mode + Kyuubi mode would be the hardest thing in the world for him to achieve. He has to essentially mold and balance 4 different chakra sources (body, spirit, natural energy, kyuubi energy) together. If he had that much control, he should think about using Rasengan with one hand first.

    I don't think Nature energy works the way you described.

    I bet... Sasuke is going to be able to shoot lazorx beamz with his new EMS. In fact, the beams will be covered in Amaterasu and if you aren't hit by it, you're going to be stuck in a Tsukuyomi. Hell, even Sasuke's Susanoo will be able to fire lzors from its nipples.

    Yup.

  3. #13
    hella is offline Senior Member Respected Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    451

    Default

    why does Naruto need to go to Fox made ...he's got the 6-path glowing chakra cloak on him ...and it has chakra hands and super speed.

    And I remember Naruto made tons of Kyuubi+Kage bunshin clones while fighting Kimimaro, nothing bad happened then.
    Sound Village for sale

    #1 Obito fan
    #1 Hinata fan

  4. #14
    Nicholas71 is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    616

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    Heh. Same here. Cute little fox...

    Sasori's 'weakness' was a little contrived, but I doubt all the Tensei'd nin would have such readily exploitable emotions, let alone fight people capable of exploiting them.

    Naruto's 'training' is a major dissapointment. I was hoping that finally mastering the Kyuubi would put an end to all the drawback-ridden plot armor shit he's been struggling through for all of Part 2 and allow him to go all-out and badass and have a few clean fights as a top-tier ninja. Instead he's gotten nerfed again in a manner making me question the purpose of this entire arc. What's the use of Kyuubi mode? It has its own time limit, and Naruto can't use any jutsus in it except maybe a Rasengan. Rather than being stronger, he is actually weaker than he was in Sage Mode. Redundant.

    I wonder what new (obviously drawback-free) S-rank technique Kishimoto's Uchiha son will get, for Naruto to 'need this (redundant) power to beat Sasuke'.
    You know, I'm in COMPLETE agreement here. While the downsides of Naruto's previous power-ups I've defended (Sage Mode and all) because they seem like plausible limitations, this is different. This is Kishi scaling back so much that Fox Mode's almost stupid right now. No clones? Time limit? Risk of death? Hell, how does that make him stronger than in Sage Mode? All he gets essentially is this 'new' Rasengan and increased strength/speed, which Sage Mode did anyway.

    The only, ONLY justification I can see in this is that maybe Naruto will somehow make peace with the Kyuubi down the line because that's the only way I can see him overcoming these limits. But still, with the war now, it's a pretty stupid move if Kishi is trying to set-up another power-up later on.

  5. #15
    black flash's Avatar
    black flash is offline Super Moderator Community Builder
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,076

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hella View Post
    why does Naruto need to go to Fox made ...he's got the 6-path glowing chakra cloak on him ...and it has chakra hands and super speed.

    And I remember Naruto made tons of Kyuubi+Kage bunshin clones while fighting Kimimaro, nothing bad happened then.
    Yeah he did but he wasn't shown using the Kyuubi chakra cloak that was only in the anime but if you remember when Naruto was going after deidara and he started to go two tails his clones felt pain and disappeared and in his training with FRS the samething happened so it's been right in our faces for time we just didn't catch on.

  6. #16
    The Witcher is offline Senior Member Always Around
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
    Posts
    1,188

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Yeah he did but he wasn't shown using the Kyuubi chakra cloak that was only in the anime but if you remember when Naruto was going after deidara and he started to go two tails his clones felt pain and disappeared and in his training with FRS the samething happened so it's been right in our faces for time we just didn't catch on.
    Actually, that last example only shows that Kishi did a retcon here to stop Naruto from spamming Kyuubi-powered clones. During the FRS training one of Naruto's clones went Fox Cloak and nothing more happened. The clone didn't dissapear and Naruto didn't feel pain, Yamato merely re-sealed the Kyuubi to prevent the clone from going out of control.

    Until now there was no reason why Naruto shouldn't be able to use clones in Fox mode. With all his jutsus now unuseable he's reverted to the old trap of having tons of chakra but nothing to use it in.

    Now that I think about it Kyuubi mode does have one advantage over Sage Mode: it's instantaneous. <shakes head>
    I'M NO HERO, BELIEVE IT!

  7. #17
    hellfire86 is offline Senior Member Respected Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    518

    Default

    Far as i see it. Fox mode is completely worthless. Already basicly stated. But i'll map it out anyway.
    The only advantages thus are increased speed strength senses and kyubi chakra arms.
    Sage mode already granted speed strength and senses and even had enhanced range of his punches with frog kata. Then sage mode also had near invunerabily where as he sprained his friggin ankle in fox mode. Furthermore, so long as Naruto doesn't have a clone waiting and gathing chakra. He can make as many sage mode shadow clones as he wants. THen ofcourse sage mode enhances all hus jutsu and not stumps them.
    And biggest of all. While sage mode has it's limits. he can reenter it with just a few moments of standing still which a nice distraction could grant and his chakra recovers while in that state while kyubi consumes his chakra in fox mode risking his death and even takeing considerable time to recover the chakra lost.
    Also as for the idea of it being too hard to control because he can't make rasengan with one hand.
    Consider Sage mode itself. Jiraiya makes rasengan easily. Yet even after all these years never perfected it where as naruto did in a month.

    Either he switches back and forth between modes to give himself time or he wil indeed combine them is my hope.

  8. #18
    BlueDemon is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    5,286

    Default

    At the very end heŽll probably combine them, or else that foreshadowing was a waste of panels...

    I just hope Kishi knows what he does...(yeah right xD).

  9. #19
    krazykwasi is offline Senior Member Community Builder
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Houston, Tx babay!!!
    Posts
    3,588

    Default

    Kishi is just trying to sharpen the contrast between the Sage's 1st and 2nd son's path which Naruto and Sasuke follow. All of Sasuke's power-ups are chakra Jutsu based and all of Naruto's just strengthen his body. As unfortunate as it is Kishi is hell bent on just having Naruto get bodily upgrades and use only those and his wits to overcome him enemies.

    Kishi must be having the worst time of his life trying to figure out how he can make sasuke's new moves more flashy and explosive without nerfing him at all!

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

  10. #20
    hella is offline Senior Member Respected Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    451

    Default

    the frogs scroll scribbles are still on naruto's hand, so i am hoping he gets to use those scrolls for some ninjitsu or atleast some sealing techniques
    Sound Village for sale

    #1 Obito fan
    #1 Hinata fan

 

 
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
vBulletin Skin by: ForumThemes.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0
Copyright © 2014 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162