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    hawkules is offline Senior Member Regular
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    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Another nice chapter with a epic Sai face.

    Yeah BF that was a classic look right there. Funny though I had to double take cause I thought Sai had a sharingan for a minute there. But it is good to see him draw more than just animals.

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    - "Love" kills zombies.

    - Sasori was ABSOLUTELY USELESS in this fight.

    - Deidara didn't use any of his signature abilities this fight, which any of them would have killed the good team over and over. C4 + suicide bomb? The explanation for suicide bomb is, "lawl, it'll cheapen art," when he already died giving his explosion to Sasuke. Why would he not use it again?

    - Why did Sai's brother dodge attacks? Did Sasori forget he's immortal?

    - Why did Sasori not see any of these puppets, that he made, being used against him? Did the plot just make him stupid enough to... oh REMEMBER THE PUPPETS THAT HE MADE FOR THE VILLAGE THAT HE CAME FROM?

    - Deidara + Sasori got hit by Sai's drawings... and somehow Sai got fast enough to jump behind them, and yet Sasuke could not do that in his fight against Deidara.

    Plot induce win for the bad guys. Kishi has to find SOMEWAY to kill these zombie army. This is something that I feared would happen when Edo Tensei started reviving the many villains/heroes. There's no way to defeat the zombies without deus ex machina and plot induced retardation. People are blinded by seeing their favorite characters/pairings back and so they kinda forget the parts that made these guys so dangerous in the first place. Terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon View Post
    - Deidara didn't use any of his signature abilities this fight, which any of them would have killed the good team over and over. C4 + suicide bomb? The explanation for suicide bomb is, "lawl, it'll cheapen art," when he already died giving his explosion to Sasuke. Why would he not use it again?


    - Why did Sasori not see any of these puppets, that he made, being used against him? Did the plot just make him stupid enough to... oh REMEMBER THE PUPPETS THAT HE MADE FOR THE VILLAGE THAT HE CAME FROM?

    - Deidara + Sasori got hit by Sai's drawings... and somehow Sai got fast enough to jump behind them, and yet Sasuke could not do that in his fight against Deidara.
    Deidara could've easily been spamming C4 taliban suicide, yes, but what would that result in? NUKE, EVERYONE DIES!

    I agree, Sasori was useless in this battle but that is just a testament to his style and type of tactics. He's an ambush type puppet master who works from the shadows. When he fought chiyo with his mechanized body he was a formidable foe with his modifications but now that he has his human body back he just has to rely on his puppeteering skills. In other words he's at a disadvantage and more pathetic.

    Just because Sasori made them that doesn't mean he can sense them whenever they are hidden and used in a trap scenario. Ninjas fall for traps too. Now If Kankuro had went at him head first with his puppets the same way he did after they kidnapped gaara then that would be a different story.

    Yea.. Sai's swoop and swap was kinda weird. Would've made more sense for him to appear behind them if the Sai in front was a clone or something.

    Plot induced win.. yes but isn't EVERY win/lose a catalyst for the plot? These guys are immortal zombies but as in with the case of Hidan, just because you cant die that doesn't mean you aren't prone to being outsmarted. Sai's brother, given his own free will, didn't want to fight so Kishi had to revert him to being Sasori's puppet, Sasori didn't have puppets to use as weapons so he was resorted to weasel mode and Deidara is still a cocky bastard who has his head stuck up his ass and underestimates his foes so that was his downfall. Seeing as how we've already seen people like Deidara and Sasori in battle Kishi wasn't going to waste much time with them.

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    Deidara could've easily been spamming C4 taliban suicide, yes, but what would that result in? NUKE, EVERYONE DIES!
    Ya, but they wouldn't be captured, which defeats their purpose of being the ambush squad. Plus, with C4 everyone but the zombies (and lightning users) would have just died outright.

    I agree, Sasori was useless in this battle but that is just a testament to his style and type of tactics. He's an ambush type puppet master who works from the shadows. When he fought chiyo with his mechanized body he was a formidable foe with his modifications but now that he has his human body back he just has to rely on his puppeteering skills. In other words he's at a disadvantage and more pathetic.
    Point taken. But why didn't he bring any of his puppets, or summonable puppets? He had time to prepare when the squads were being formed by Kabuchimaru? But yes, you have a very valid point.

    Just because Sasori made them that doesn't mean he can sense them whenever they are hidden and used in a trap scenario. Ninjas fall for traps too. Now If Kankuro had went at him head first with his puppets the same way he did after they kidnapped gaara then that would be a different story.
    It's true, had they been normal traps. But these "traps" are things Sasori should know all about, and he's fighting the puppet user that uses every puppet that he has ever used. Also the same spammed puppet(s) that he used in his first battle. I would have thought his countless experience would have served him much better than "punch," then "captured."


    lot induced win.. yes but isn't EVERY win/lose a catalyst for the plot? These guys are immortal zombies but as in with the case of Hidan, just because you cant die that doesn't mean you aren't prone to being outsmarted. Sai's brother, given his own free will, didn't want to fight so Kishi had to revert him to being Sasori's puppet, Sasori didn't have puppets to use as weapons so he was resorted to weasel mode and Deidara is still a cocky bastard who has his head stuck up his ass and underestimates his foes so that was his downfall. Seeing as how we've already seen people like Deidara and Sasori in battle Kishi wasn't going to waste much time with them.
    If they were normally outsmarted, i.e. Shikamaru outsmarted, then I would not have a problem. But this fight was incredibly one-sided and had very little substance. I just wonder why Kabuchimaru didn't just control Sai's Brother like he did with that random ninja. The fact that Sasori didn't have any puppets is already a huge flag. He still had 1 scroll left from his fight with Chiyo, and not all his puppets were fully destroyed yet either. Deidara was cocky, but not stupid, though it did lead to his downfall.

    In my opinion, if Kishi didn't want to fully use his revived dead for the ninja war, then he shouldn't have either killed them or revived them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon View Post
    Ya, but they wouldn't be captured, which defeats their purpose of being the ambush squad. Plus, with C4 everyone but the zombies (and lightning users) would have just died outright.
    Correction everyone would die, only the zombies would survive. Lightning users would have the advantage if they imbue the clay with lightning but once it detonates then its death time

    True. Deidara could've just pulled an Allah and drop down from the sky and go Nuke and everyone would die.. point for Madara, True. But that would be de most boring chapter in manga history and you and everyone else would want Kishi's head on a stick for doing something so straightforward and lame (although in the real world its the best option).

    Deidara and Sasori's first attempt was a pretty good 1, with the C4 in the Aburame's gorge, that would've resulted in the Shinobi's death, but it failed.


    Point taken. But why didn't he bring any of his puppets, or summonable puppets? He had time to prepare when the squads were being formed by Kabuchimaru? But yes, you have a very valid point.
    Not really. Kabuto didn't summon them and give them free time to get prepared. He pretty much summoned them and said "K, welcome back, time to march off into war". Even the zombies were like "uhhh wtf is going on here?" They dont even know who or why they are fighting.

    In my opinion, if Kishi didn't want to fully use his revived dead for the ninja war, then he shouldn't have either killed them or revived them.
    Well kishi had to kill them when he did for plot sake but I see what you are saying about the other point. He just revived them to add numbers and some excitement. The last 2 chapters of battles in a war situation like that was enjoyable for me. The main negative I would say is the way how Sai butt punched them in the barrel. That was indeed mighty convenient but other than that I wasn't looking at this squirmish as being anything epic more than 4 chapters. Kishi has a lot of people to cover.

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    plot makes characters dumb...
    or Kishi isn't trying anymore.

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    Pretty entertaining it was.
    I´m curious how they´ll fare against the movie guy heading for them

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    sasori's puppet collection is with kankuro....
    and since the DEAD are being resurrected, my sig is still accurate right?

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    ^Right =DD

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    Konan's got killed by Madara, but you're right overall

 

 
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