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    Urameshi-sama is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Default All Known Plotholes

    Can we list (& discuss maybe?) all the plotholes we know of in the series? Focus more on contradictory events than unexplained events, and avoid testimonies that were probably lies or misinformed.
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    ah. I got one to start things off.
    Yamato. Orochimaru was said to have experimented with the 1st's dna and stuck it into a butt load of infants before he ran away, which is roughly estimated to be 18 years or a little less than when we are now, but the guy would have been at LEAST 6 years old by the time the snake left. and it SAYS in the handbook that he was 6 when he graduated the academy and became a chunin. There is no way the guy would have had enough training to pass the graduation exam, let alone become a chunin or even know how to walk by that point in time.

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    ^ i dont understand.kakshi became a chunin at 6.so too probably did itachi.gives you a big advantage to have a bloodline ability wen youre a kid

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    yeah, but Orochimaru wasn't caught by then, so that meant that the dude was in a test tube when he was 6. that means he shouldn't have even been able to walk or speak properly by then.

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    sasuke reverse summoning manda to escape deidara's c4 ultimate jutsu, sasuke surviving the hachibi fight by having juugo "fuse" flesh with him and having karin replenish his health via vampiric means, nerfing the byakugan, sharingan rapes eveything now, having itachi transfer all his doujutsu to sasuke via forehead touch, team taka escaping unscathed vs all the kage-level opponents and S class bodyguards at the summit of the kages. amaterasu armor, kabuto's edo tensei hax, danzou's sharingan arm... these are just a few of the pothole stupidity kishimoto expects us to swallow - oh let's not forget naruto thinking kurenai's pregnant belly to be caused by over eating barbecue (plot induced stupidity)

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    a lot of what you mentioned are just dues ex machninas, not plot holes.
    of that list, the sasuke summoning manda and the danzou sharingan arm are the only plot holes at the moment that you actually mentioned, and the danzou arm only barely qualifies as one until we get more info on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdfang View Post
    a lot of what you mentioned are just dues ex machninas, not plot holes.
    of that list, the sasuke summoning manda and the danzou sharingan arm are the only plot holes at the moment that you actually mentioned, and the danzou arm only barely qualifies as one until we get more info on it.
    - You kinda forgot the whole "Byakugan" coming BEFORE the Sharingan. Oh wait... that was Retconned. But wait, the Byakugan household is the oldest and most noble house of Konoha, now it's Senju and Uchiha.

    - Edo Tensei, that is all.

    - I dunno about you, but Jutsu transfer with a mere forehead touch, especially since it hasn't been explained yet, is in itself a plot hole. Why hasn't anyone else in this manga done it yet? Pretty sure Asuma would have loved to give Shikamaru some of his Jutsus as a farewell gift.

    - Sasuke pulling that eagle summon out of his ass... uhh... where was that when he fought Deidara?

    - Edo Tensei again. Seriously, Orochimaru should have just did what Kabuchimaru did when he first invaded Konoha and just spammed Edo Tensei.

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    - Neji was actually right about that "destiny" vs "hard work" thing. Just look at Naruto now, the destined child of prophecy, son of a Hokage and a Jinchuuriki, descendant of the Sage of the Six Paths!

    - Kabuto using Edo Tensei to summon Nagato. If he knew where Nagato's body was and managed to take a sample of his DNA for Edo Tensei purposes, why didn't he just take the Rinnegan too? Nagato was laid to rest with his eyes open for crying out loud, shouldn't that have made it obvious?

    - Madara "giving" Nagato the Rinnegan.

    - When Kakashi (or was it Yamato?) was explaining elemental chakra natures to Naruto. Naruto: "So what about Shikamaru's shadows, what nature are they?", Kakashi: "I'll tell you later". Hundreds of chapters later... nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineVTDragon View Post
    - You kinda forgot the whole "Byakugan" coming BEFORE the Sharingan. Oh wait... that was Retconned. But wait, the Byakugan household is the oldest and most noble house of Konoha, now it's Senju and Uchiha.

    - Edo Tensei, that is all.

    - I dunno about you, but Jutsu transfer with a mere forehead touch, especially since it hasn't been explained yet, is in itself a plot hole. Why hasn't anyone else in this manga done it yet? Pretty sure Asuma would have loved to give Shikamaru some of his Jutsus as a farewell gift.

    - Sasuke pulling that eagle summon out of his ass... uhh... where was that when he fought Deidara?

    - Edo Tensei again. Seriously, Orochimaru should have just did what Kabuchimaru did when he first invaded Konoha and just spammed Edo Tensei.
    - I think it was only said that the Sharingan mutated from the Byakugan.

    - jutsu transfer was probably more to do with eye contact, using a genjutsu from the sharingan to hypnotize Sasuke's mind to unconsciously use Amaterasu if his eyes met Madara's. The forehead poke just made sasuke widen his eyes, so they were open and susceptible.

    - the Hawk summon was probably just a case of Sasuke finding no use in summoning that at the time; he had curse seal at the time to allow flight, and sacrificing Manda rather then the hawk was a choice someone like him would make.

    - I dunno about Edo tensei. Maybe Kabuto has more chakra and developed the jutsu further, so he can use it better.

    Those are just my best guesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhodder View Post
    - I think it was only said that the Sharingan mutated from the Byakugan.
    But the first Uchiha, the son of the Sage of the 6 paths, was known to have said Doujutsus. And the Uchiha is known for the Sharingan, and not the Byakugan.

    And no, Kakashi stated that the oldest and noble house

    http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v09/c078/5.html

    So how did the Sharingan mutate from something that came second?

    - jutsu transfer was probably more to do with eye contact, using a genjutsu from the sharingan to hypnotize Sasuke's mind to unconsciously use Amaterasu if his eyes met Madara's. The forehead poke just made sasuke widen his eyes, so they were open and susceptible.
    Again, why hasn't anyone else did this? Why didn't Kakashi just hand Sasuke Chidori back during their training? Why didn't Kakashi just give Naruto some useful techniques? Why didn't any of the Uchiha just transfer their jutsus rather than have them train until they bleed (see Sasuke when he was learning the Fireball)?

    - the Hawk summon was probably just a case of Sasuke finding no use in summoning that at the time; he had curse seal at the time to allow flight, and sacrificing Manda rather then the hawk was a choice someone like him would make.
    That reasoning makes little sense, sorry. He was already running low of Chakra at the time, and one of his wings was already blown off, what did he have to lose? The summoning of a hawk takes MUCH less chakra than Manda, so what did he have to lose?

    - I dunno about Edo tensei. Maybe Kabuto has more chakra and developed the jutsu further, so he can use it better.
    Summoning the bodies don't take much Chakra, so I dunno why everyone thinks the bodies' Chakra ties to Kabuto.

    The chakra that the bodies use is their own spirit (Chakra is melded with spirit and body). So they ahve their own source, rather than using Kabutos. This is also a huge reason why Sage mode + 6 path mode will be one of the hardest things to ever achieve, because he is molding 4 different types of Chakra together, rather than 3 (from Sage mode).

    Good try, though.

 

 
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