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    Well said.
    I'M NO HERO, BELIEVE IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzo View Post
    Sasuke has also been turned into too much of a generic villain far too easily. There's no real logic in him wanting to destroy all of Konoha. He knows that it's just Danzo and the Elders who are responsible for the Uchiha slaughter. And I suppose any extra irrationality on behalf of Sasuke is just conveniently explained through the 'uchiha vengence' dark chakra crap. That's lazy writing and it sucks. What ever happened to believable motives.
    Sasuke pretty much explained why he wants to destroy Konoha completely. All his generation dared to laugh and enjoy life, while Uchihas were killed before they were even 7 ...
    I saw yesterday "Shutter Island" . I guess psycopaths don't need a logic reason to kill

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    That's no reason. Those laughing kids are oblivious to the secretive stuff which was conducted by danzo and the elders. As far as anyone knew, Itachi just killed them all by his own free will. You can't seriously justify wiping an entire community like konoha based on some secretive plot by a few individuals, especially when you are from that community yourself.

    Sasuke's reasons in the last chapter are BS. No logical person would hold Naruto for example as being accountable for any of that, just because he's from Konoha.
    I think kishimoto has a basic understanding of how accountability works. Kisame once said to Sasuke that if he attacks the top brass, the people will shield them, so you can't leave them out of the equation. But that's not really true. It's not like there's never been a regime change in history. That means that just to target Saddam Hussein, you'd destroy every single person in or connected to Iraq. It's absurd.

    It's so unbelievable that the only way for it to make any sense is for the Uchiha vengence/dark chakra to be taken into consideration so that Sasuke isn't thinking straight.
    Which is just as lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzo View Post
    That's no reason. Those laughing kids are oblivious to the secretive stuff which was conducted by danzo and the elders. As far as anyone knew, Itachi just killed them all by his own free will. You can't seriously justify wiping an entire community like konoha based on some secretive plot by a few individuals, especially when you are from that community yourself.

    Sasuke's reasons in the last chapter are BS. No logical person would hold Naruto for example as being accountable for any of that, just because he's from Konoha.
    That's precisely my point. We all assume that Sasuke has not lost his sanity.
    His reasons are not logical at all, I agree.
    Imo, the explanation is Kishi wants Sasuke be insane. Is it well written by Kishi? That, I won't say

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzo View Post
    That's no reason. Those laughing kids are oblivious to the secretive stuff which was conducted by danzo and the elders. As far as anyone knew, Itachi just killed them all by his own free will. You can't seriously justify wiping an entire community like konoha based on some secretive plot by a few individuals, especially when you are from that community yourself.

    Sasuke's reasons in the last chapter are BS. No logical person would hold Naruto for example as being accountable for any of that, just because he's from Konoha.
    I think kishimoto has a basic understanding of how accountability works. Kisame once said to Sasuke that if he attacks the top brass, the people will shield them, so you can't leave them out of the equation. But that's not really true. It's not like there's never been a regime change in history. That means that just to target Saddam Hussein, you'd destroy every single person in or connected to Iraq. It's absurd.

    It's so unbelievable that the only way for it to make any sense is for the Uchiha vengence/dark chakra to be taken into consideration so that Sasuke isn't thinking straight.
    Which is just as lame.
    Yea but the way he went from avenger to cold blooded killer is just weird. Not twenty chapters ago he was sacrificing his life to save Karin and his other team members. And now you want me to believe he's a cold blooded killer? Kishimoto lost me on that one

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    Wont be doing spoilers this week or next im a little busy so someone else will have to do it. Just make sure if you do make a spoiler thread that you update them.

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    Valley of The End:

    Naruto - Sasuke come back!
    Sasuke - Shut Up! I have to kill Itachi! You wouldn't understand, you never had a family...
    Naruto - That's true, but then I met all of you guys <3

    Now:

    Naruto - Sasuke come back!
    Sasuke - Shut Up! I have to kill everyone in Konoha! You wouldn't understand, you never had a family...
    Naruto - That's true, but then I met all of you guys <3

    Nice to know so much has changed in the 3 year gap.

    As for not having a family, Naruto had a pretty good chance of convincing Sasuke right there. Sasuke's family & clan were essentially sacrificed in order to protect Konoha. Likewise, Naruto's family (His father, I'm guessing his mother too, and Jiraiya was his god-father) was also sacrificed to protect Konoha. If he had just mentioned the latter, at least it would convince Sasuke a bit. Just saying 'but I had you' didn't work last time, so idk why Kishi tried the same line twice.

    Kishi should start getting plot advice from Oda instead of Kubo.

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    Sasuke doesn't know Naruto is the 4th's son. Perhaps if Naruto threw that in his little speech as you said Sasuke would reconsider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x20a View Post
    Valley of The End:

    Naruto - Sasuke come back!
    Sasuke - Shut Up! I have to kill Itachi! You wouldn't understand, you never had a family...
    Naruto - That's true, but then I met all of you guys <3

    Now:

    Naruto - Sasuke come back!
    Sasuke - Shut Up! I have to kill everyone in Konoha! You wouldn't understand, you never had a family...
    Naruto - That's true, but then I met all of you guys <3
    Best comparison ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reaperzeero View Post
    Sasuke doesn't know Naruto is the 4th's son. Perhaps if Naruto threw that in his little speech as you said Sasuke would reconsider.
    On the other hand, seeing as how psycho and irrational sasuke is it'll make him despise naruto even more for being the direct descendant of one of Konoha's higher ups! Sasuke already wants to kill naruto for being loyal to Konoha, that much is granted, but when he finds out (from Madara maybe) that his greatest rival is the son of the legendary hero 4th Hokage himself then sasuke's gonna get a massive hate erection from the ninja satan himself and would make it his ultimate goal to kill naruto at all cost.

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