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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanov_2020 View Post
    PS: isn't in the end of that legend the lightning god's hand got cut off? or was that another story?
    Oh, I'd love to see that.

    <After a long battle, Sasuke raises his left hand for yet another lightning jutsu>

    Naruto: That's bloody ENOUGH! <Full-page spread where he lops off the offending hand with a wind jutsu>

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    'Naruto is intended as a 'god of wind' just as Sasuke is a 'god of lightning'.'(Old interview before Jesuke became his adopted son).
    Fuck, Witcher you've been reading too much Air Gear. Or Kishi's been reading too much AG. (which btw is really bad now)

    Fuck Naruto having other people teach him wind jutsus. Sasuke learned all the Chidori variations on his own. Btw all of his techniques are variations from his chidori so why does everyone complain about Naruto only using futon rasengan. All I'm saying is Naruto's gonna be creative (as much as he could be with this tech) his futon jutsu and probably teach himself.

    edit: commas make it so it doesn't look like you're cursing someone out. haha

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    And remember naruto represents the younger of the sage's sons who inherited his "body" which made up his willpower and physical energy vs the older one who inheritied the sage's "eye" which was the power of his chakra and spiritual energy. Good reason why sasuke is more jutsu inclined and naruto's moves dont really requiere a lot of handseals and are more based on stamina and shit.

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    I keep saying that just because Sasuke has unlimited jutsu that it doesn't mean Naruto isn't stronger in his own way. Plus I STILL think he's waaaaayy smarter than Sasuke in battle. Granted he's a baby in life but anyone who takes a look at the Pain battle and doesn't realize that he's too much of a tactical fighter and surprising fighter as compared to Sasuke than I just don't know..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Fuck, Witcher you've been reading too much Air Gear. Or Kishi's been reading too much AG. (which btw is really bad now)
    wait... airgear??? t'hell is airgear got to do with that? (i stop reading it long ago) do you even know the legend of fuujin and raijin? their rivalry is so great it create the storm (or was it rain).... (originated from chinese-buddhism legend then somehow become a great japanese legend)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Fuck Naruto having other people teach him wind jutsus.
    what's wrong with having a teacher?
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Sasuke learned all the Chidori variations on his own.
    under the supervision of the genius kakashi then the genius orochi... while naruto is under the supervision of an old perverted, whom is not a great teacher but is a great granpa, and a frog (though the frog does not know it at the time)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Btw all of his techniques are variations from his chidori
    variation of lightning chakra manipulation..
    chidori is only refer to that lightning on hand that generate sound like chidori bird..
    i wonder if he can make lightning clone like kakakshi did?
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    so why does everyone complain about Naruto only using futon rasengan
    not everyone.... and i think it's because it's getting old and also because it also kill him bit by bit
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    All I'm saying is Naruto's gonna be creative (as much as he could be with this tech) his futon jutsu and probably teach himself.
    see.. you also wish naruto do futon jutsus other then futon rasengan

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    All of his lightning attacks are based off of chidori and aren't really their own jutsu. There's two parts of jutsu manipulation to make a person jounin+ level. They are attaching an element to your jutsu and shape manipulation. All chidori is is lightning held in the palm of your hand. He's able to do that because he's naturally affiliated with the lightning element. Shape manipulation would be his variation on all his techniques.

    My fault on bringing up Air Gear in the first place because I was thinking about Hajime no Ippo. Ippo is the "wind god" and his rival (can't think of his name. one he trained with in the beginning) is "the lightning god."

    The futon rasengan doesn't hurt him anymore. Not with sage mode anyways. He perfected it. Plus it's a pretty balling technique. Pretty much a guarantee win if hit with. (start your Susanoo flame bashing now) Naruto has better teachers than a bedridden pervert and mobiley active pervert. He has ma and pa frog. Plus the old toad. Great teachers.

    Nothing is wrong with having a teacher but I believe everyone is too wrapped up in Naruto learning from someone else instead of becoming great on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanov_2020 View Post
    do you even know the legend of fuujin and raijin? their rivalry is so great it create the storm (or was it rain).... (originated from chinese-buddhism legend then somehow become a great japanese legend)
    All I know is that there was a lame filler arc with two characters going by those names. Could you elaborate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    All of his lightning attacks are based off of chidori and aren't really their own jutsu. There's two parts of jutsu manipulation to make a person jounin+ level. They are attaching an element to your jutsu and shape manipulation. All chidori is is lightning held in the palm of your hand. He's able to do that because he's naturally affiliated with the lightning element. Shape manipulation would be his variation on all his techniques.
    You're seriously starting to annoy me. I hate it when people post arguments that they clearly knew were flawed the moment they typed them just for the sake of arguing. Here's where you call me out on being 'repetitive' for pointing out again that other than the name all those 'variations' hardly resemble the Chidori. I guess if Sasuke hadn't named them as such you wouldn't be saying that. If Naruto said 'Tornado Rasengan!' ad produced an actual tornado instead of the same old chakra ball you could say he showed flexibility. But he HASN'T. Except for Rasenshuriken(not Fuuton Rasengan) all Rasengans are identical, interchangeable and have the same use and effect(even Kishit realised their redundancy, which is why Oodama and Fuuton Rasengans were never seen again).

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    The futon rasengan doesn't hurt him anymore. Not with sage mode anyways. He perfected it. Plus it's a pretty balling technique. Pretty much a guarantee win if hit with. (start your Susanoo flame bashing now)
    That line is bordering on flamebait if you ask me. Both the dialogue and the databook tout Susanoo as the Ultimate Defence(TM). When was it ever suggested Rasenshuriken(not Futon Rasengan) would have a chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Nothing is wrong with having a teacher but I believe everyone is too wrapped up in Naruto learning from someone else instead of becoming great on his own.
    Because without a sensei Naruto has a track record of having near-zero progress. Logically he should be learning more jutsus with his shadow clones, but instead he spends all his spare time brooding over Sasuke. He couldn't use a one-handed Rasengan even after three years of using it, didn't know about Kagebunshin's information gathering skills till Kakashi pointed it out and never learnt any more wind jutsus after Rasensuriken. What exactly is he going to learn if he went on a training arc on his own?
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    "I keep saying that just because Sasuke has unlimited jutsu that it doesn't mean Naruto isn't stronger in his own way. Plus I STILL think he's waaaaayy smarter than Sasuke in battle. Granted he's a baby in life but anyone who takes a look at the Pain battle and doesn't realize that he's too much of a tactical fighter and surprising fighter as compared to Sasuke than I just don't know.."

    Well said!

    Remmember the time when naruto deceived and owned kakuzu mid air?
    There were also many many times in the pain fight were naruto were too much of a smart ass.
    I really loved the mass kage bunshin disguised as rocks, and then the rocket throw + rasengan.
    WAAAAAYYYY more exciting than seeing sasuke spamming instakill jutsus.

    Naruto is much more flexible than sasuke in fights, and he was like that since the beginning.
    Almost all the recent fights were decided with a single smart move. Naruto can spam us with smart moves.

    @witcher

    I don't really think that using a bunshin for rasengan a disadvantage at all. Naruto seems to be like some kind of master on bunshin.
    It is true that Naruto have shown us no success doing solo training.
    Probably, Naruto is going to be teached by killer-bee. Everything seems to be pointing at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    ^All of Asuma's jutsus. All of Temari's jutsus. Pa Toad's wind breath. Danzo's kunai blade extension.

    For other elements we have Raikage's lightning armor and Killer Bee's vibrato blade trick. Handseals are overrated.
    danzo's blade extension and asuma's jutsu is the same i guess...and has temari used anything other than the weasel summon WMD in the manga?
    as for pa toad's thing, im guessing kishi just didnt show all the seals,like with deidara, but there seems to be one at least
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/377/08/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    My fault on bringing up Air Gear in the first place because I was thinking about Hajime no Ippo. Ippo is the "wind god" and his rival (can't think of his name. one he trained with in the beginning) is "the lightning god."
    your fault is accusing people talking bout airgear, and in a wierd way, hajime no ippo ... when iobviously their not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
    Nothing is wrong with having a teacher but I believe everyone is too wrapped up in Naruto learning from someone else instead of becoming great on his own
    are you hoping for naruto to seat on a rock and jutsus, technics, tactics, or that answers his been searching for just pop out of his ass... then if that happen, i guess sasuke is not kishi's favorite child no more?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    What exactly is he going to learn if he went on a training arc on his own?
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