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    Deathbringerpt is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDoLLarBiLLxx View Post
    I dont think Sasuke killed Karin. He told her not to move. meaning he didn't hit any vital part. Remember he risked his own eyes to save Karin when the amaterasu fire accidently got on her.
    That's why if he indeed kills her, it will show how shitty Kishimoto's writing is.

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    Look at it this way. If she's gonna die, it will make her the first dead character of naruto's generation.
    Generation that seems to have an impenetrable plot armor.
    Killing her would at least mean that Kishi has balls to do it after all.

    But i don't think he has balls. That's why i don't expect her to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    That "I won because the Uchiha are the superior race" was your typical ass poor justification for Sasuke's victory. Sure it does actually makes sense since we've seen that Kakashi can't use the sharingan to his maximum potency but shit, at least Kakashi was awesome on his own right and had a shit load of jutsu and strategized to win his fights.
    As shitty as it is thats the justification Kishi gave for sasuke's victory. Danzou's lost was less on the fact of his lack of skills (he was a badass regardless), but more on the fact that it was a necessary win for sasuke. Kishi wanted to build up the Uchiha Clan and the Sharingan once again and what better way to do that than have someone outside the bloodline with a large quantity of their almightly eyes using the ultimate genjutsu only to fall short because his opponent was a "true" blood. This battle was just another exhibition match for his star boy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    That's why if he indeed kills her, it will show how shitty Kishimoto's writing is.
    Not soo much. Sasuke "saved" karin the first time because she was on fire and he had a gut feeling that his new found MS power could do something about Amaterasu's Blaze, which luckily for him turned out to be true. In other words saving Karin's life back then was a test for him rather than a selfless service brought on by love and friendship. If sasuke kills Karin, which i really hope he does but am not expecting him too, it'll be a good move on Kishimoto's part because it'll show that regardless of how much sasuke might've cared for his friends if they were to get in the way of his revenge he WILL NOT hesitate to sacrifice their life for his cause. Just like when he invaded the summit the only reason he saved her was because she could track Danzou. If she wasn't useful to him in that instant he more than likely would've left her like he did Suigetsu and Juugo. Right now karin is literally in the way of sasuke's revenge so i really hope that lightning rod went through both of their hearts.
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    Kishimoto is a wuss he won't Karin even if it cost him his balls.

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    I don't think Karin will be saved. It's all part of the journey Sasuke is apparently making to the dark side. All the talk about him shutting his eyes to the light, etc. This kind of act is meant to be a symbol of his development in this regard. Similar to how he didn't care about killing those Samurai.
    This kind of thing is necessary for Sasuke to become the true villain and as kishimoto said for the last battle in the manga be between him and Naruto.
    Sure, he saved Karin before, but that was a) because he needed her ability, and b) before the hokage summit where Sasuke's 'evil' came to fruition (and also the madara talk about predestined revenge).

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    Kishi mentioned in an interview over a year ago that a member of Team Hawk would die. That never came to pass, so maybe this is it. Let's face it: they've outlived their usefulness. With his most recent powerups Jesuke's stronger than all three of them put together, and the only one that's still of any use to him is Karin. Whether she lives or dies they're likely going to officially disband before long since he's too caught up in darkness/hatred/revenge/emo for them.
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    Not soo much. Sasuke "saved" karin the first time because she was on fire and he had a gut feeling that his new found MS power could do something about Amaterasu's Blaze, which luckily for him turned out to be true. In other words saving Karin's life back then was a test for him rather than a selfless service brought on by love and friendship. If sasuke kills Karin, which i really hope he does but am not expecting him too, it'll be a good move on Kishimoto's part because it'll show that regardless of how much sasuke might've cared for his friends if they were to get in the way of his revenge he WILL NOT hesitate to sacrifice their life for his cause. Just like when he invaded the summit the only reason he saved her was because she could track Danzou. If she wasn't useful to him in that instant he more than likely would've left her like he did Suigetsu and Juugo. Right now karin is literally in the way of sasuke's revenge so i really hope that lightning rod went through both of their hearts.
    No sorry, that won't cut. Kishimoto made pretty damn obvious in the Killer Bee fight that Sasuke cared for his companions when they were all getting completely trashed by him, when suigetsu brought on his water Godzila form, Sasuke was reminded of his time as a chunin with the Kakashi team. Just because he's a dick 24/7, that established development is canon, period. And this was after Sasuke knew of the true Uchiha history and his jourenye to the DARKNESS.

    Leaving 2 capable ninja behind in the middle of a rubbled room giving them ample space to escape in order to speed up is revenge is not the same thing as killing Karin when she's taken hostage.

    So he goes from saving them to killing them without remorse? I know it's not confirmed but it's shit, no matter which way you cut it.

    What i'm hoping it will happen is that Sasuke indeed spared her while killing Danzou but Karin leaves him since Sasuke is getting out of line with this revenge quest sinceh e took such a huge risk. You know, something that actually consistent and believable.

    Unlike most people, i actually liked Sasuke before the Uchiha reveal, now this is just pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt View Post
    No sorry, that won't cut. Kishimoto made pretty damn obvious in the Killer Bee fight that Sasuke cared for his companions when they were all getting completely trashed by him, when suigetsu brought on his water Godzila form, Sasuke was reminded of his time as a chunin with the Kakashi team. Just because he's a dick 24/7, that established development is canon, period. And this was after Sasuke knew of the true Uchiha history and his joureny to the DARKNESS.

    Leaving 2 capable ninja behind in the middle of a rubbled room giving them ample space to escape in order to speed up is revenge is not the same thing as killing Karin when she's taken hostage.

    So he goes from saving them to killing them without remorse? I know it's not confirmed but it's shit, no matter which way you cut it.

    What i'm hoping it will happen is that Sasuke indeed spared her while killing Danzou but Karin leaves him since Sasuke is getting out of line with this revenge quest sinceh e took such a huge risk. You know, something that actually consistent and believable.
    You talk of consistency and believable yet you think its unbelievable for sasuke to kill karin to get to Danzou? The only person I honestly believe that sasuke cares to give a damn for is his dead brother Itachi. During the 8tail battle yea sasuke was on his "path" to the Darkside but comparing the sasuke back then to the sasuke NOW even you would have to admit that he's progressive gotten way more evil. He's changed so much that even people like Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo all at one point in time (during the invasion of the summit) commented on how he's changed dramatically ever since he got his MS and even more so when he realized he could use Amaterasu. Against KB each of his teammates contributed to saving his life so at that point in time it was understandable as to why he reminisced and such about his friends and actually had a heart but the minute they got to the summit the situation changed. He left the guys behind cause they were a burden to him and his revenge on danzou was WAY more important than their lives and if Karin wasn't lucky enough to be a tracker she would've been left behind too. Yes Juugo and Suigetsu are "ample" ninja but given the fact that they were both defeated, weakened and that there were 5 Hokage around his action was selfish and he pretty much left them for dead.

    If kishi wants to be, as you would say death, more consistent and believable he would have sasuke kill karin right now without much, if any, remorse. Why?? Because killing and turning your back on the ones you love for the greater good is the Uchiha's theme!! Itachi killed everyone; his parents, his best friend and even his lover, to complete a mission for the sake of his village not going into war. Madara himself (who sasuke is being made to emulate) became bitter towards and later turned his back, and practically killed, his entire clan just because they didn't agree with his ideals. Sasuke is next in line to follow the thread of Uchiha curse. Though i'd be able to live with it just for the sake of "its Kishi's story and not my own", it would totally suck if sasuke saves karin cause that would mean that he cares for her soo much that he'd save her no matter what. If kishi's smart he would have sasuke take karin's life right now and revel in his defeat over Danzou and care less at the fact that he killed karin.

    The way I see it Sasuke killing karin would solidify his place as the new Dark Lord and make his future confrontation with sakura even more epic because if sasuke has the heart to kill karin, the only konoichi that was actually useful to him, then we'd be more fearful for sakura life and completely oblivious to the events that would transpire when he finally meets her, this time as enemies. Sasuke saving karin's life would only make him more susceptible to being converted back to the light side by Naruto down the line.
    Last edited by krazykwasi; 02-02-2010 at 08:03 AM.

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    ^ Ah, but there's the catch. If Kishi DOES in fact kill karin and make Sasuke's transformation more epic, it will cause him to write even MORE about the psycho emo wonder in order to reveal more of his new nature, and nobody (sane) wants that.

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    I think that karin will die, and danzou will manage to survive somehow.
    Then, when danzou gets back and meet naruto, they will have some kind of conversation about sasuke.
    Danzou tells naruto that sasuke cold-bloodly killed his mate, giving naruto the final resolve about the whole sasuke-naruto situation.

    Then, naruto decides to punch him to death, and in the final battle, he wins over sasuke, and DO NOT kill him, just like Itachi asked if he could succeed.

    Please, danzou must not die. I became a fan of that dirty old bastard
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