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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    "Sauke hasn't done anything against the ninja world yet"?? His actions at the summit was the equivalent of a terrorist invading a U.N. meeting and starts causing a ruckus only to have Barrack Obama, Hu Jintao, Dmitry Medvedev, Gordon Brown, and Yukio Hatoyama (top world leaders) physically fight him and Obama losing an arm to him in the process. Only then to have the unknown terrorist be bailed out by OSAMA BIN LADEN himself!! Now, with the help of Bin Laden, he kills a sketchy Dmitry Medvedev on his way back to Russia after fukin over everyone at the U.N. Yea Danzou is a bad guy who was going to lose his position anyways but the fact still remains that he killed the current leader, liked or not, of a great ninja village. The summit was sasuke's coming out party and his middle finger to the ninja world as a whole.

    Soooo.. when Danzou said "her vitals" did he mean sasuke avoided her vitals or was he surprised that sasuke HIT her vitals to get to him?? Im kinda confused cause at one point we have Madara saying that sasuke practically told him that Karin was his favorite and then sasuke telling karin to stay still could be an indication of him aiming to kill danzou while avoiding killing her?? I've wanted Karin dead for the longest while so him killing her would be a pro cause that annoying bitch would be dead and him killing her, a LOYAL follower, would push sasuke even deeper in the direction of the dark side. I honestly think she'd live though cause there needs to be that epic cat fight between her and Sakura and the way she "helped" sasuke so much during this fight (her ability is the most helpful to him compared to Suigetsu and Jugo). If sasuke kills her not only would it mean he's genuinely more evil but also a retard for killing is number 1 supporter.

    Uhhh Krazy...you don't think your analogy was a bit extreme? Ehh what can you do.

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    What!? No Karin VS Sakura catfight? But I don't think Sasuke suddenly went "evil" and killed Karen without a wink. Maybe Shisui's eye contgrolled Sasuke? He said "nii-san" or whatever in the end and that brother might be either Itachi or Madara. Younger body for Shisui maybe.

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    Well, I don't think Sasuke used tsukiyomi this time, I mean, isn't tsukiyomi supposed to be on his right eye? And as for Danzou, I think he has kind of an advantage right now, I mean, he has Karin, even if Sasuke did hit his vitals, he can still take a little bite from her arm and then he wouldn't even have to use Shisui's sharingan for Izanagi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    ^^ Maybe he thought he could use it on Madara as to control him to kill sasuke??
    I haven't read the English version but the french version Danzou said that the best course of action was the use Shisui's sharigan (Which controls people) to mind control Sasuke into fighting Madara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas71 View Post
    But I think we've gotta accept it. If Kishi favours Sasuke there's nothing we can do. Complaining ain't gonna work. If we don't like it then fine, we don't. Stop reading then. But the optimist in me still says that Kishi really does like Naruto a lot, but is just taking an entirely different tack with him. Imagine that at the end of it all, after all the power-ups, plot points and new jutsus Sasuke's gotten, Naruto beats Sasuke. In a fair fight. That would be great. And I'm pretty sure Naruto's destined to win, too. Just hoping it's pretty even.
    Quote Originally Posted by black flash View Post
    Im glad im not the only one who sees the Sasuke complaining as pointless.
    I'm about 3 times more sick of all the repetitive, rehashed Kishimoto/Uchiha apologism that goes on all over the net 24/7. Truth is bitter, yet in a 'fair fight' slow, weak Sage-less and Kyuubi-less Naruto would get impaled by Chidori/genjutsued/incinerated/electrocuted right off the bat by one of Sasuke's countless instakill jutsus. I'm sorry, but if his 'development' continues at the present rate then plot induced stupidity is the only way to go(namely Sasuke forgetting to use various jutsus/abilities at convenient moments).

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkules View Post
    Sometimes it seems as though this manga is going to end in a few months and the end result will be that Sasuke will have had more screen time then the title character. What a load of croc. Sasuke is being built as a powerful character in this manga and I'm sure sooner or later the title character will be proven to be just as strong.
    Hawkules, you should be questioning who's comments are 'croc'. Let me quote an excellent answer that was given when someone said something similar('have patience.. Naruto will be strong...'): 'How much more patience is required? It's been hundreds of chapters since the timeskip already. Anything wrong with us wanting Naruto to get progressively stronger and more developed as a character like in the entirety of Part 1?'

    If you seriously think the pattern is going to radically change after hundreds upon hundreds of chapters full of Uchiha worship then I need to say no more.

    Quote Originally Posted by krazykwasi View Post
    "Sauke hasn't done anything against the ninja world yet"?? His actions at the summit was the equivalent of a terrorist invading a U.N. meeting and starts causing a ruckus only to have Barrack Obama, Hu Jintao, Dmitry Medvedev, Gordon Brown, and Yukio Hatoyama (top world leaders) physically fight him and Obama losing an arm to him in the process. Only then to have the unknown terrorist be bailed out by OSAMA BIN LADEN himself!! Now, with the help of Bin Laden, he kills a sketchy Dmitry Medvedev on his way back to Russia after fukin over everyone at the U.N.
    LMFAO ROFL LMFAO That's just krazy!

    Quote Originally Posted by bloodfall View Post
    Well, this just reminds me the time when Itachi met Naruto and asked him if he would be able to kill sasuke if he were to do any harm to the leaf.
    I'm seeing Naruto and Sasuke going towards the direction of Jyraia and Orochimaru, While Kakashi is going to turn Hokage, just like the Third.
    I Think someone already statted that but anyway....
    Then let's hope Naruto adopts Jiraiya's thinking and decides the only way to save Sasuke is to kill the little Karma Houdini bitch.

    Finally getting to the chapter... the retarded look on Sasuke's face on the last page was just plain hilarious! And we're finally free of that pest Danzo. Now that Sasuke's predictable ultimate direction as a villain(and eventual Karma Houdini not-so-redeemed hero) has been established can we please please go to the other characters now? Like the one whose name is in the title? Or that Kakashi guy whose year this is supposed to be?
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    I hope Danzou survive by hiding in that tree

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    It's amazing how Danzou, had not possessed 50 sharingans, would completely and utter shit as a ninja.

    No, Really. Complete, total shit. The only jutsus he performed aside from Izanagi and Shisui's special technique was exclusive air jutsus that while cool, didn't do much in the long run. He kept dying over and over and over again.

    I know he was supposed to be crippled before getting experimented on Orochimaru but God damn this is almost pathetic. The 3rd Hokage was one of the most powerful ninjas in the series and he was old as shit.

    And after reading the chapter again, and seeing Sasuke telling Karin not to move, i'm hopeful that he manipulated his chidori to go around Karin's heart in order not to kill her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Witcher View Post
    I'm about 3 times more sick of all the Kishimoto/Uchiha apologism that goes on all over the net 24/7. Truth is bitter, yet in a 'fair fight' slow, weak Sage-less and Kyuubi-less Naruto would get impaled by Chidori/genjutsued/incinerated right off the bat by one of Sasuke's countless instakill jutsus. I'm sorry, but if his 'development' continues at the present rate then plot induced stupidity is the only way to go(namely Sasuke forgetting to use various jutsus/abilities at convenient moments).
    I'm not saying that you're wrong, in fact I think you've got lots of right points, but what I'm trying to put out is...well after so long complaining, it's not going to work. Nothing's going to happen. Kishi's not reading the forums. Whatever happens is up to him and it's his prerogative for better or worse. So why bring it up every chapter when everyone already knows it? I'm reading this manga for enjoyment, so even if there are things I don't like, I might as well enjoy it because if I don't there's no point and I should stop reading right now. You may say the apologism is bad (and I guess I'm an apologist) but in the end unless Kishi cheats us out of Naruto winning I'm going to be rather glad that Naruto wins. In short, I'll enjoy it more. So rather than go on and on about it I'd rather just enjoy it. Even if your points are true (and I think they are) look at the situation...you're right but you're not enjoying it. I may be wrong but I am.

    Oh and you can't discount something like the Kyuubi, it's simply an advantage that Naruto has been granted. Similarly, Sasuke's Sharingan has been granted by blood. Both are unique advantages that no one else has. Similarly, I could say that an MS-less, Sharingan-less Sasuke can't beat Naruto. And Sage Mode and Chidori are similar too, they're both techniques both people have learned. If Sasuke didn't have Chidori he'd have lost a lot more battles. Like against Deidara. Plus he may not have developed Kirin.

    Anyways about the chapter...I don't like it. Mainly because Danzo with like a gazillion Sharingans and many many extra lives lost to a guy with just two eyes and one life. The fight itself looked cool but I'll be disappointed it Danzo goes out like that. I hope he escapes, seriously. The last page was scary, with Sasuke looking all calm, and talking to his brother...it reminded me of gaara talking to his mother. SCARY.

    And hey, I'm getting tired of Sasuke too. Naruto and Kakashi next week, please?

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    On one hand you talk of repetitive complaining. Nick, I don't have to explain again why Kyuubi can't be considered an advantage yet. Can you list a single instant in Part 2 where it has been beneficial to Naruto in beating an opponent and not merely a nuisance to get suppressed soon? And I've been dubious about Sage Mode ever since it was introduced for obvious reasons. Naruto needs plot armor both for activating it(prep time) and maintaining it(extra shadow clones). None of Sasuke's skills have such drawbacks and they're like a part of him in the same sense as Naruto's Kagebunshin and Rasengan. I never denied Sasuke wouldn't be so strong without those. I pointed out that Naruto needs more of them instead of temporary plot-assisted upgrades like Sage Mode. If Naruto could use Kyuubi like Killer Bee or maintain Sage Mode indefinitely, then and only then could you compare them to any of Sasuke's gifts.
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    Interesting chapter. So neither Sasuke nor Madara realizes that the real Danzo is in fact within the tree?

 

 
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